What It Takes to be a Transportation Security Officer
Many people at TSA are checking out our blog, from security officers on the front line to management here at TSA’s headquarters. Today, we received a post from Mo McGowan, who heads up aviation security operations at TSA:
Since there have been hundreds of comments about our Transportation Security Officers (TSOs) on this blog ranging from "they're great" to "they stink," I thought it might be interesting to take an inside look into what it takes to be an officer and what they do.
So what does it take to be hired as an officer? Applicants are tested before they’re hired, and have quite a bit of required training afterward. Applicants for “screening” jobs take a series of image interpretation tests before they are ever offered a job. (About one in 20 applicants actually becomes an officer.) Even after they’ve been on the job, TSA requires ongoing training throughout the year.
Once hired, officers:
- Participate in more than 120 hours of classroom and on-the-job training before they ever screen a person or a bag;
- Undergo a series of tests before receiving a work assignment;
- Complete even more training if they are going to screen both passengers and baggage (More than half of our officers do this); and
- Complete an annual certification process that includes more written tests, image interpretation tests, and a third party evaluation.
So training is a regular, important part of an officer’s job.
Seven times every day, every checkpoint in the U.S. is tested with ‘fake’ threats to ensure that our officers are on alert. Most of these fake items are very difficult to identify on the computer screen, and most of these items are detected. Unfortunately, we’re all most likely to hear about the few prohibited items that pass through undetected rather than the thousands of items that are identified at the checkpoint.
On a typical day in the U.S., security officers find two guns and around 2,800 knives and blades (of varying sizes) on passengers and in carry-on bags. Those are the most commonly discovered prohibited items, but it’s hard to imagine how many other potential threats are identified on a daily basis.
We at TSA don’t want anything to happen ‘on our watch.’ This means a lot to me when my family flies, or when I fly to see my grandkids. It means that officers want to be thorough even though it might be inconvenient for us sometimes. It means that they take our safety, security, and the threat seriously, and try their best to prevent and deter the individuals who wish to do us harm.
At TSA, we think about one passenger at a time, two million times a day.
Thanks,
Mo
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114 Comments:
How much testing to see if they can deal with the public in a difficult enviroment?
Are they tested to be mentally fit for the job or can they just distinguish blobs of clay and such in baggage?
February 13, 2008 3:36 PM
they also undergo background checks too, i hope?
i agree we hear all to often about poor TSO experiences (i love complaining as much as the next person), so i'd like to commend the people behind this blog and for helping to present the other side of the story.
February 13, 2008 3:42 PM
Whoa!
"On a typical day in the U.S., security officers find two guns and around 2,800 knives and blades (of varying sizes) on passengers and in carry-on bags."
What could people be thinking? Honestly! It blows my mind that people could be so stupid/careless.
new-found respect for TSA...
February 13, 2008 3:45 PM
Here's a thought. How about telling us how we can report a TSA employee that is rude or abusive at a checkpoint. One that does not involve getting confronted by every TSA agent at the checkpoint because they get defensive.
As well as providing us with away to make sure that it has been investigated as opposed to mailing a generic form letter for a response.
February 13, 2008 4:00 PM
All of this training is all well and good, but we expect some professionalism from every agent. Now, I realize that the people speaking up on this blog are a vocal minority, but I've found that the minority does represent a much higher number of people. Even if we looked at a 1:10 ratio of those that speak up and those that don't, the numbers are still quite alarming. True, it is a tough job, and a fair number of people are rude to TSO's. However, I worked in customer service. I faced the same level of rudeness for the entire day as well. This should never affect how you deal with people. Also, all of the training in the world means nothing if an agent isn't doing their job. I have, personally, witnessed agents at the x-ray monitors diddling around with their cell phones, ogling passersby(not just "keeping an eye out"), and flat out watching everything else but the screen. I have also noticed a high number of questionable people are TSO's. We should never feel like the person in charge of our safety is not fit for the job. Coming from someone who usually gives people the benefit of the doubt, I should never be doubting someone's competency. I suggest a little bit more thorough measures for hiring. If the TSA is going to be a semi-law enforcement agency, it should have similar requirements for both hiring and training. 1:20 applicants getting through might not be stringent enough. I'd rather see fewer professionally trained (i.e.: law enforcement type training) personnel than more "security guard" style trained personnel. After all, they are theoretically dealing with national security.
February 13, 2008 4:09 PM
When you pre-hire, do you go through the same kind of process a local, state, or federal law enforcement officer would be subjected to? Specifically I'm referring to things such as:
1) What kind of FBI criminal background checks do you do, and how in depth do you go? Do you require fingerprints of all applicants? What would be disqualifying criteria?
2) How do you screen for mental and emotional stability? Do you look for and screen out certain negative personality traits?
3) What about education? Do you require at least a High School diploma? College degree? Or are GED's "adequate"?
4) Health and fitness? Is there some standard? Some TSO's I've seen could learn to stop eating a few big macs, and get on a treadmill once in a while. Or do is just being able to breathe and waddle down the concourse enough?
5) Drug and alcohol testing? Is employment in the TSA a zero drug tolerance policy?
And what the heck does a series of "series of image interpretation tests" mean? This is a gun (uhhh), this is a knife (uhhh), this is a bullet (uhhh)?
February 13, 2008 4:22 PM
How many would-be TSOs fail their training and don't become screeners?
What is the threshhold for successfully completing training vs. failing training?
February 13, 2008 4:27 PM
that's great that TSA staff is trained how to identify the "bad" items and we all appreciate that...but i have to wonder about dress code and behavior (their own, not the travelers) training. i fly in and out of o'hare frequently and more often than not these people who are supposed to be protecting me are joking around with each other instead of looking at the x-ray screen, wearing backwards baseball hats, untucked shirts, baggy jeans and appearing otherwise completely unprofessional. shouldn't there be some feeling of authority from these people??
February 13, 2008 4:33 PM
May I ask why the general pay rate is so low? I don't know exactly what it is region to region but I've heard as low as $12 an hour. Is that true? That may be livable in Tulsa, but not in S.F. or N.Y.
I'd want someone given the task of protecting the security of our borders to make a living wage, which gives them pride and a sense or worth in their jobs.
And just as important not be compromised by nefarious financial gain.
Can you give a broad range of payscale - and if it starts that low are their drastic increases upon proof of employee value?
All the best...
james http://www.futuregringo.com
February 13, 2008 4:46 PM
"On a typical day in the U.S., security officers find two guns and around 2,800 knives and blades (of varying sizes) on passengers and in carry-on bags."
How many do you miss? None?
What happens when you miss them? Nothing?
Flying is safer than driving, and when the inconveniences and fears cause people to drive rather than fly, more people die:
http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/March05/Sept11driving.pdf
TSA is probably responsible for killing more people by causing them to drive than they could hope to save through screening.
February 13, 2008 5:06 PM
The lack of comments on this post makes me realize that the TSA is moderating the comments in full force now due to the amount of negativity they received on other posts. My question is, is moderation of this blog legal? Considering that the TSA is a branch of the government, I don't think it has the right to prevent any comments from being posted regardless of the topic. Isn't that what the first amendment is about? The only ones they could hold back would involve national security, no? Thus, they may prevent posts regarding to employees by name but not racially offensive terms, spam, promotion, etc. It seems to me that is government censorship which is a big no no in this country.
February 13, 2008 5:40 PM
Let me try again:
"On a typical day in the U.S., security officers find two guns and around 2,800 knives and blades (of varying sizes) on passengers and in carry-on bags. Those are the most commonly discovered prohibited items, but it’s hard to imagine how many other potential threats are identified on a daily basis."
How many do you miss? None? (I doubt it.)
Of the ones you miss, how many cause planes to fall from the sky? None? (Seems to be.)
It is easy to maximize your performance statistics if your metric is identifying water bottles, bananas, and tweezers as potential threats.
February 13, 2008 5:58 PM
Id have to say they do a pretty good job. As a piece in this giant US infrastructure thank you for keeping us safe all these years since your implementation.
If I could offer any advice, while a good majority of your officers represent the operation very well, some look downright un-professional and un-kept as if they either rolled right out of bed or straight out of the hood.
Wrinkled/poor fitting uniforms, un-tucked shirts, ultra baggy pants do-rags...Whether on duty or cruizin' through the terminals, They don't garner much faith in their appearance and professionalism.
ORD and OAK is the worst Ive seen. Not to be a jerk but I think McDonalds controls their employees dress and appearance better then some of your security checkpoints.
But again, thank you for what you all do in helping keep us safe.
February 13, 2008 6:18 PM
120 hours = 3 work weeks, and then they're good to go?
Doesn't sound so rigorous to me.
February 13, 2008 6:59 PM
I have an observation, and then a question. Neither of these are attacks on anyone.
Despite your assurances that TSO's are highly trained, this training does no service if an individual doesn't do their job. I have personally witnessed on a few occassions that some of the screeners are not paying attention to what they are doing. Mind you, on every single one of these occassions I was not even in line to be screened. I have witnessed TSO's on their cell phones, ogling passersby, and generally not paying attention. Now, how does all of that training do any good, if they are not using it? And, don't take this personally, but why do I get the feeling that these responses we get are nothing but BS press releases? All of the initial posts that I have seen fail to answer any of the questions posed. There hasn't been a flight based terrorist attack on US soil in over seven years, because flight based terrorist attacks are extremely rare. Even a look at the statistics obtained from the FAA can prove that.
Let's see if this one doesn't get deleted, since my last post got deleted. I'm sure there are plenty of posts that get deleted despite abiding by the guidelines. It seems to be a common theme.
February 13, 2008 7:08 PM
I'm curious what other roles TSA plays besides airport security. I found it interesting that they were running metal detectors at a Barack Obama Rally in Wisconsin.
February 13, 2008 7:13 PM
I agree with the anonymous poster. I think it's great to talk about how much training agents get and how committed you are to safety and how seven times a day you try to sneak things through, but, how about taking three of those and using them to test your agents' people skills?
I think the big problem with how people see the TSA is less about feeling safe (Though, the showmanship security doesn't help your case there), but the fact that people feel more like cattle than humans when going through TSA checkpoints.
So, yeah, in short: Focusing on safety is good, but make sure you remember that you are protecting /people/ and treat them accordingly.
February 13, 2008 8:06 PM
Mentioned a # of times by other posters here, but I have to agree . . . MANY of the officers 'act' unprofessional - joking, talking on cell phones, eating, not paying attention . . . its very frustrating to see this sort of thing going on, when we are at the MERCY of them.
I wish there was a way to report them.
I am also surprised that the training period is so short . . . shouldn't it be much longer? And more stingent?
February 13, 2008 8:38 PM
To the business man in the dark suit today that yelled at me for rerunning his computer bag for a second time in the x-ray machine and discovered the leatherman tucked in neatly beside the power cord.
No..I did not get a thrill ….or was I purposely trying to make you late for your flight.
My job is very difficult. One of my biggest fears is that I will miss a prohibited item such as a gun or a knife while performing my rotation on the x-ray machine. I definitely don’t want a plane to be taken down by an explosive device while on my watch. I would not survive the heartache.
So…when I take an extended look at a bag in my x-ray machine. I assure you it’s not because I am on a power trip or have a desire to ruin your day. It’s because I don’t ever want to have to say to your relative or someone elses “I’m sorry, I missed the explosive”
February 13, 2008 8:39 PM
Oh, though I do want to add . . . i think this is a great idea . . . I like reading this blog and learning more of what is going on with TSA and the choices it makes. Its frustrating that each airport is different . . reading this sort of explains tha for me, a bit.
February 13, 2008 8:41 PM
@Nancy Toby- training is continuous, the first leg is in the classroom, the next leg of training is at the airport with a trainer and takes several weeks to complete. There is mandatory monthly training. We are tested on everything we do several times a year.
February 13, 2008 9:04 PM
@ Dave X- I would think that no planes coming down would be a good thing.
Any liguid, cream, jells, paste or aerosol in containers over 3.4 oz (100ml)are not allowed to be in your carry on or carried into the sterile area.
Tweezers and bananas are not on the prohibited list.
TSA likes to give people options. Driving to your destination is always an "option". Perhaps if the driving rules were as strongly enforced as the rules to get on a plane less people would die driving. :)
February 13, 2008 9:18 PM
I work at SFO as a trainer and instructor. We are a private company contracted with TSA. Our officers are not allowed to have wrinkled, unprofessional uniforms. If they do, they are sent home. We have a little bit stricter standards than the typical TSA airport. Does that mean everyone we have working there is great? No, not by any stretch. And sadly, yes, it is NOT uncommon to see officers with their attention away from the x-ray monitor when they are on the x-ray.
I really wish I could defend a lot of this. I can't. I'm a bit biased and think that we at SFO tend to do things better than the typical TSA airport, but that's primarily because our company is so afraid of losing their contract that they often take things up a couple of notches.
Our officers, as of Jan 1, 2008, start at $17.76 an hour with full benefits. So we're paid fairly well for the Bay Area.
As far as customer service goes, it works both ways folks. My experience is that a lot of passengers come in thinking they're at their typical retail store, i.e., they think they can get their way if they huff and puff and get rude. That is not to say that a number of TSOs don't take their, admittedly, limited amount of power to the extreme and use it to abuse people. But often times, passengers don't understand the rules (not that they're easy for infrequent fliers to understand, because they aren't) and often don't like the answer they're given.
Hey, I'm with all of you out there when it comes to some of the things that we prohibit. The liquid ban doesn't make any sense, especially when TSA admits on this very blog that it's extremely difficult to mix the so-called liquid explosives to begin with. Or why are metal scissors with 4" or less blades allowed, but a small little pocket knife not? A lot of it doesn't make any sense. A number of the procedures we have to do are moronic as well and TSA doesn't deem us worthy or smart enough to explain to US why WE do some of the stuff WE do!
Is what we do 100%?! God no! But what do you want? The only way it could ever be close to 100% would be if we did a complete pat down on every single passenger and opened up and dumped every single bag that came through. So instead of being in line for 10 to 15 minutes, now you're going to be in line for 2 to 3 hours. Which do you want?
I'll give this credit to TSA: they are trying and never content with keeping things the same just for simplicity sake. They're constantly trying new things and adding new and different procedures to our arsenal to make us safer. It will never be perfect, but we can only strive to improve.
And I do feel for most of you the pain it has become to fly. I wish I had an answer. Well, I do. Unfortunately, my ideas would never be implemented and things would certainly be different if I were in charge, but that of course will never happen.
February 13, 2008 9:40 PM
"The lack of comments on this post makes me realize that the TSA is moderating the comments in full force now due to the amount of negativity they received on other posts. My question is, is moderation of this blog legal? Considering that the TSA is a branch of the government, I don't think it has the right to prevent any comments from being posted regardless of the topic. Isn't that what the first amendment is about? The only ones they could hold back would involve national security, no? Thus, they may prevent posts regarding to employees by name but not racially offensive terms, spam, promotion, etc. It seems to me that is government censorship which is a big no no in this country."
Considering the posts are read by humans, and there are only so many Federal Employees tasked to read the blogs (many have a more important job than monitoring a blog", it takes a bit of time for posts to be approved. Consider that.
February 13, 2008 10:07 PM
Travel through, or to, Milwaukee sometime. I travel through there quite frequently, and I would say that 95% of the TSA there are friendly, nice, and give you a gentle reprimand if you've forgotten to remove some liquids. I've been a selectee (SSSS) many times (traveling on military orders seems to cause that), and I've never been treated rudely. Of course there are a few bad apples. There always are. But most of the people in Milwaukee are very nice.
February 13, 2008 10:10 PM
@phx tso
"TSA likes to give people options. Driving to your destination is always an "option". Perhaps if the driving rules were as strongly enforced as the rules to get on a plane less people would die driving. :)"
Passive aggressive much? You might be a great TSO but the majority of TSA employees I've run into have egos and power trips the size of Alaska (bigger than Texas). I really don't appreciate their attitudes like I'm infringing on their day nor do I enjoy all the randomness of the rules they seem to enforce. My point is that you'd never know most TSOs get training because of their attitudes, presentation, and the way they treat fliers. Perhaps if the TSOs were just a little nicer and stopped taking their aggressions out on me when I'm trying to do everything they ask I wouldn't want to drive everywhere. But I'm sure you have a suggestion for making it all better underneath that lovely chip on your shoulder, eh?
February 13, 2008 10:41 PM
Aside from the obvious observation that nearly anyone in even the most rudimentary pseudo-professional setting receives 120 hours of training (employees on my team receive 26 weeks of training) it would be interesting to hear what that training consists of.
In my experience (~220,000 miles in actual miles flown, not bonus miles, annually) the TSOs are often relaxed, hardly paying attention, and on most occasions rude when confronted.
Proof in the pudding: A member of my team has recently travelled with a full 16oz bottle of water in his carry-on just to prove the ineptitude of the officers who screen his bag.
Congratulations, your three-week training course teaches your officers to be coarse and inconvenient, while leaving so much room for the speculative "illusion of security" that those of us who frequent America's airports no longer believe any such security exists.
February 13, 2008 11:05 PM
I won't make an excuse for officers and their rude attitude, but look at it from our perspective. You just made an announcement that large liquids, etc., are not allowed. Then, the next thing you know, you and some of your co-workers are being called for four bag checks in a row due to large liquids in someone's bag. Now multiply that scenario a couple dozen times in a single shift. How would you feel? I know, it doesn't excuse it, but it's not as though I've had pleasant exchanges with police officers everytime either, and they receive a hell of a lot more training than TSOs do.
Once again, I feel that people are expecting the impossible. It is not excusable, nor is the negligent, casual behavior of TSOs either. It's an imperfect system and when you have to continually hire thousands of employees throughout the year, it makes the recruiting team's task a little close to impossible to try and weed out all of the POSSIBLE bad apples.
And yes, we are fingerprinted and drug tested and subjected to random drug tests as well. We go through a 10 year background check as well.
February 13, 2008 11:24 PM
I won't make an excuse for officers and their rude attitude, but look at it from our perspective. You just made an announcement that large liquids, etc., are not allowed. Then, the next thing you know, you and some of your co-workers are being called for four bag checks in a row due to large liquids in someone's bag.
Here's the thing - it's your *job*. Really, you get paid to find these things. You get paid to deal with people who don't know all the rules because they haven't undergone 120 hours of training before flying on an airplane. It's your job to deal with people who are rude and annoying without blowing a gasket.
Think about it the next time you go to the supermarket. How many times has the cashier asked people today if they want to have "Paper or plastic?" How many times has the cashier waited there patiently while somebody fumbles around for their cash or counts out too much or too little. And yet, when your turn in line comes, do you expect the cashier to bark at you "Did you count your money right?" or say something like "Do you want to have your groceries today?" if you question the price on an item?
I live outside the country (Japan) and I fly through SFO several times a year. The security staff there is better than what reading the comments on other airports would lead me to expect. However, I still experienced the security staff barking orders and acting upset for no good reason, lines being rearranged randomly and poor layout of the screening area.
I last flew out in January. I think they were asking to remove cables, etc. from bags and put them separately but I can't remember exactly. I do remember that I tossed something else in the bin with my laptop and the security officer (politely) asked me to put it in another bin. I was happy to do that but the reason that I hadn't originally was that I wound up with 4 bins worth of stuff there at the checkpoint and there was not room to put 4 bins out on the table. More space and some clear signs as to what you should be putting in bins would be helpful. It had been a few months since I had flown so I was trying to watch the monitors and find out if there were any new rules but they appeared to only be in Spanish that day.
I thought that post 9/11 "professionalizing" the screening staff would be a good move. I'm sorry, but I was wrong. Or, perhaps, the staff has not really been professionalized. Instead of shoddy screening by contract workers instead we have shoddy screening by government workers who now have the power to make you miss your flight or subject you to humiliating searches in retaliation for any perceived offense.
The TSA will not have been professionalized until when we hear a story about TSO's stealing people cigar lighters or making mothers drink their breast milk we go "No way, I'd never believe that". For those of you working with the TSA, including Mr Hawley, try flying without your TSA credentials sometime. If you honestly believe that your screeners are professionals your idea of professional does not match with that of the rest of the world.
February 14, 2008 1:38 AM
I'd like to know how much of those hundreds of hours of training TSA officers go through are about:
1) Customer Service
2) Manners
3) Civil Rights
February 14, 2008 2:33 AM
TSA, the first line of defense at the airports in the USA. 3 weeks of basic 'training'. And then OJT before they meet a 'customer'.
US Air Force. Dropping big things on the right people. 6 weeks of 'basic' training and then MOS specialization schools.
US Coast Guard. Protecting our littoral seas. 7.5 weeks of 'basic' training, and then on to specialized training schools.
US Navy. Projecting our national interest from blue water. 8 weeks of 'basic' training, and then on to MOS specialization schools.
US Army, the main force on land when diplomacy fails and after the Marines clean-up, 9 weeks of 'basic' training, and then MOS specialization schools.
US Marines, the first line of soldier-on-the-ground offense for the USA. 19 weeks of 'basic' training, and then MOS specialization schools.
Who do you think I trust to keep me safe?
February 14, 2008 2:37 AM
With TSA recommending passengers arrive an extra hour ahead of time to allow for the added security, times 2,000,000 passengers a day, that's 2,000,000 hours per day of lost time. That's 228 person-years of lifespan, or 1000 person-years of productivity per day that society is spending on TSA.
The inconveniences you visit upon us may seem small as you process us as fast as you can push through your security, but the passengers are paying a big cost for no tangible benefit. The geniuses that armored the cockpit doors did more to keep planes from falling out of the air than TSA can hope to achieve. The heroes of Flight 93 taught us how to deal with people that would brandish knives or guns on a plane.
There are childrens' fables warning us about things like the TSA: "The story of Chicken Little" and "The Little Boy Who Cried 'Wolf'" -- the only difference is that TSA is a government backed bureaucracy.
@PHX TSO said...
@ Dave X- I would think that no planes coming down would be a good thing.
Any liguid, cream, jells, paste or aerosol in containers over 3.4 oz (100ml)are not allowed to be in your carry on or carried into the sterile area.
Tweezers and bananas are not on the prohibited list.
TSA likes to give people options. Driving to your destination is always an "option". Perhaps if the driving rules were as strongly enforced as the rules to get on a plane less people would die driving. :)
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The planes not coming down isn't because of TSA -- it is because of real deterrents like armored cockpit doors, and situationally aware passengers.
Tweezers and bananas aren't on the prohibited items list, but they are indeed confiscated as security threats, just like water bottles. My point in mentioning them, is that they potentially count in the "hard to imagine how many other potential threats are identified on a daily basis" mentioned by Moe.
If we're talking numbers and qualifications, my 10,000 hours of training is in risk assessment, statistics, and systems engineering. And I call foul: Talking about how much you catch without mentioning how much you miss isn't a valid metric for a detection system. Taking credit for a non-event (no planes falling out of the air) on the basis of that isn't credible.
Moe's comment about the 2802 most common prohibited items being knives and guns found is laughable: take a look at that prohibited item trashcan and you'll find far more drink bottle threats than guns. The "few prohibited items" that pass through undetected in your tests, (what is "most"? 51%? 99%?) scaled up by the 2800 knives per day that you do catch, mean that 28 to 2700 knives go flying every single day and don't seem to cause any noteworthy incidents.
The little boy who cried wolf doesn't gain credibility by touting all the tooth-like rocks he found, he gains credibility by catching wolves.
February 14, 2008 6:49 AM
@PHX TSO:
"I would think that no planes coming down would be a good thing."
How many US planes, originating from a US airport, have been brought down due to terrorism in the last, say, 20 years? I can only think of 4, none of which were brought down with liquids or explosives. --There was one in '87 where a gun was used, so 5 in 21 years.
It seems to me US airports had a pretty good grasp on security before the TSA. And I'm sure there were many fewer complaints about the screeners prior to the creation of the TSA.
So... What exactly have we gained by having the TSA? When you look at the statistics, and the fact that things still get through, it seems we've gained another money guzzling federal agency, many new hassles, and no additional security.
February 14, 2008 7:20 AM
Sounds like you train and test on everything but courtesy and professionalism.
February 14, 2008 8:05 AM
Why is LAX still asking for all electronics to be removed from bags?
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/02/13/tsa-at-lax-still-req.html
February 14, 2008 9:25 AM
What kind of "customer service" training do TSOs receive (if any)?
I certainly understand the need to train repeatedly on how to find prohibited items. But it seems like training on how to deal with the public (as rude and obnoxious as we can be at times) is also equally important.
We train medical professionals to diagnose and cure medical problems. But we also train them how to deal with people ... because calming down a stressed-out patient can actually help in finding a diagnosis. If TSOs could find ways to calm stressed-out passengers, it might help them to manage the entire screening process more efficiently as well.
February 14, 2008 9:31 AM
Its funny how I am a TSO and I know someone who works in Nuclear Security guarding a Nuclear Power Plant and they have no idea what they are looking for on their X-ray machine so I commend TSA on the training they have provided me and how good it feels to be more qualified, and know that the people of the world are safer, however I don't feel comfortable knowing that the training at a Nuclear Power Plant is not even close to ours and yet just as vital.
February 14, 2008 12:00 PM
What rights do we have as travellers though? If we are harassed by an Agent or they enforce a rule like the previously commented electronics rule, or are generally mean to us what can we do? Can we report them to someone like we can with police officers?
As long as we are treated like criminals we aren't going to be happy with the system. Agents could at least be courteous.
February 14, 2008 12:46 PM
@ CowboyBebop said...
"Is what we do 100%?! God no! But what do you want? The only way it could ever be close to 100% would be if we did a complete pat down on every single passenger and opened up and dumped every single bag that came through. So instead of being in line for 10 to 15 minutes, now you're going to be in line for 2 to 3 hours. Which do you want?"
...
"Once again, I feel that people are expecting the impossible. It is not excusable, nor is the negligent, casual behavior of TSOs either. It's an imperfect system and when you have to continually hire thousands of employees throughout the year, it makes the recruiting team's task a little close to impossible to try and weed out all of the POSSIBLE bad apples."
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I don't expect the impossible, and I agree that 100% is impossible. What riles me is that the TSA is pretending and presenting itself as doing the impossible. Pretending that the less than 100% TSA does is significantly "more safe" than what we already get from armoring the cockpit doors and relying on the heroics of passengers like those on Flight 93.
You are right to think that 3 hour security waits for 2 million passengers per day are infeasible and unworkable, but our society is not even getting a measureable benefit out of the current 10-15 minutes. (TSA recommends passengers allow an extra hour over the bad-old-days.)
I don't expect the impossible, but I do expect better than to be lied to about the effectiveness of this "Security Theatre".
February 14, 2008 2:17 PM
If it's a "Sterile Area", why are people with guns and other weapons allowed in it?
February 14, 2008 3:04 PM
@anonymous.
The sterile area is the area just beyond the checkpoint after a passenger has been screened thru security.
People with guns and dangerous weapons are not allowed in the sterile area. Although, they do try regularly. :(
February 14, 2008 3:58 PM
To anonymous- If you have a grievance with a TSO you have a couple of options. Each checkpoint at the airport, (at least at the airport I work at) has comment cards displayed for everyone to fill out. If you can't locate one yourself. Ask and one will be provided. The card has plenty of room for compliments, grievances or suggestions for improvement. If you want an answer you are going to have to supply your name and address on the card.
If you don't wish to go the comment card route then there is always the supervisor. He or she is usually near a big desk or podium within the checkpoint.
February 14, 2008 4:03 PM
@Shawn- That is only a drop in the bucket. It would take entirely too long to mention everything that people attempt to bring on a plane.
The best thing to do is to call your airlines ahead of time and ask them if you can bring a questionable item on a plane. Many things that you can't bring on the plane is perfectly fine to place in your checked baggage. When in doubt put it in your checked baggage.
February 14, 2008 4:07 PM
@ Lancifer, I agree professionalism is very important. Learning to deal with cranky, tired, and frustrated passengers takes some serious self control. It is a difficult task to master and it doesn't matter how much training you have had in customer service. You are either a person who can let things fly or a person who can't. Everyone has a breaking point. The passenger always get mad first. I have seen passengers throw things at TSOs who were simply trying to explain the options for liquids. Not yelling but simply explaining. "This item is too large to pass thru the checkpoint. Would you like to put this in your checked baggage, put it in your car, call a friend to come get it or mail it back to yourself." ...and wham!!!! the passenger has grabbed something out of their bin and thrown it at the TSO. Or the passenger will start yelling vulgarity and loudly proclaim that TSA sucks.
I have never blown up at a passenger but I have wanted to.
People are always pointing the finger and mentioning customer service. I bet those yelling the loudest about TSA needing better customer service skills wouldn't last a day at a checkpoint. The reasoning is because they are the first to yell foul when a prohibited items is denied entry into the checkpoint.
February 14, 2008 4:29 PM
Errr... wait. According to your own job adverts, it's 56-72 hours of in class training and 112-128 hours of on-the-job (screening) training.
February 14, 2008 4:38 PM
To anonymous,
Getting hired by TSA is a very lengthy process. There are several steps involved. Successfully passing one step leads to another. Everyone that is a TSA employee is fingerprinted, a very lengthy background check is done. Good Gosh, I don't ever want to have to fill out another one of those. Everyone receives a lengthy medical exam. All government agencies are zero tolerance. Image test, test your ability to see shapes and colors. It's not as easy as it sounds. TSA looses a lot of prospects at this point. More information about TSA employment and requirements can be found here at the following link.
http://www.tsa.dhs.gov/join/careers/index.shtm
February 14, 2008 4:38 PM
To anonymous- TSA employees, wear a specific uniform. Blue pants, white shirts. We do not wear hats or baggy pants or jeans.
TSA has a strict dress code policy. Sloppy dress is not tolerated.
February 14, 2008 4:43 PM
James- like any other government agency TSA pays it employees using a pay scale. There is always opportunity for advancement. It only takes initiative and the desire to succeed. I believe USA Jobs is advertising starting TSO pay at 24,432.00 to 36,648.00 depending on qualifications. There is also locality pay and that is dependent upon where you live.
February 14, 2008 4:52 PM
I beg to differ, I requently see people in the sterile area with weapons, generally in uniform. You missed my point. If something is sterile, there are NO unallowed items, in this case weapons.
If the TSA has done their job properly, there should be no need for people with weapons in the sterile area. An authroized person could be disarmned, this is why guns are not allowed in jails.
Remember, there are bad apples in law enforcement as in any profession. Why take the chance?
Would seem to me a rapid response team would be a safer option.
February 14, 2008 4:59 PM
@ anonymous
There is two weeks of classroom training. The amount of training at the checkpoint varies depending on the individual. We have a minimum number of hours of training we must complete successfully at the checkpoint. Everyone accomplishes the minimum. It takes some people longer than others to feel comfortable with the various training task. Training continues until the TSO has mastered all tasks. Then the testing begins. Not every TSO makes it thru training. The job is truly harder than it looks to the casual viewer.
February 14, 2008 5:05 PM
@ LAura, Welcome to the TSA Blog. :)
February 14, 2008 5:07 PM
Anonymous said...
they also undergo background checks too, i hope?
i agree we hear all to often about poor TSO experiences (i love complaining as much as the next person), so i'd like to commend the people behind this blog and for helping to present the other side of the story.
February 13, 2008 3:42 PM
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I filled out a 37 page online questionaire that was used to conduct my background check. Asking me everything about my past including a ten year residency history. I had to account for my employement (or unemployment) for the past 10 years as well. I had to give personal and professional references, and they were contacted. Even four months after I was on the job, my references were being checked again! My credit was checked three times, once prior to hiring me, and twice thereafter. I was drug tested prior to employment, and I'm subject to random drug testing while employed. We are also subject to a 5 year re-investiation. Hope this answers your question.
February 14, 2008 6:28 PM
To the "Anonymous" brainiac (Feb 14@4:59)who actually suggested that the airport police be disarmed...
I have read a lot of comments on this blog, but your comment has got to be the silliest!! Are you for real? Disarm a police officer??
WOW!
February 14, 2008 6:57 PM
James on 13Feb said: "May I ask why the general pay rate is so low? I don't know exactly what it is region to region but I've heard as low as $12 an hour. Is that true? That may be livable in Tulsa, but not in S.F. or N.Y."
Screener pay rate is set by Congress as part of the budgeting process. Most screeners who have been with the organization very long would happily tell you that Congress is determined to avoid adequately compensating us.
February 14, 2008 7:04 PM
James on 13Feb said: "May I ask why the general pay rate is so low? I don't know exactly what it is region to region but I've heard as low as $12 an hour. Is that true? That may be livable in Tulsa, but not in S.F. or N.Y."
Screener pay rate is set by Congress as part of the budgeting process. Most screeners who have been with the organization very long would happily tell you that Congress is determined to avoid adequately compensating us.
February 14, 2008 7:05 PM
Dave x on 14Feb said: "The planes not coming down isn't because of TSA -- it is because of real deterrents like armored cockpit doors, and situationally aware passengers."
You assume that to be so. You know what happens when you assume?
On the one hand you cry foul by saying that TSA cannot claim credit for greater air travel safety, saying we can't prove it. Then you make a simlarly pie-in-the-sky claim about why you think travel is safer, and you can't prove it, either.
I know I will never convince you that you are wrong; I won't try. But, your arguments are rife with double standards, unprovable allegations and bad logic. Other people who read this blog need to be aware of that.
February 14, 2008 7:19 PM
To the poster who asked about
Customer Service
Manners
Civil rights
and the training that we TSO's receive in these areas. We are required by our managment team (supervisors, checkpoint manager, local hr, and Headquarters) to complete training courses in these areas. Civil rights is a biggie, and Customer service is a portion of our performance rating as well. At my airport, if you're demeaning to passengers, it will be addressed by the supervisors. On the other hand, the passenger have no more right to demean us than we do to demean them. And we deal with a whole bunch of crap every single day. Does that give a TSO the right to treat a passenger meanly? NO. We are instructed to contact the supervisor if a passenger gives us a problem that is getting out of hand. As far as regular complaining etc, we deal with it the best we can. I've found that most times, a smile and a "have a nice day, sir" or "I hope it gets better for you" is enough to let the passenger know that we are not the enemy. Are there TSO's out there that are less than professional? You're gonna find that no matter where you go or what aspect of public service you're dealing with. Trust me though, either they weed themselves out, or they get weeded out by management. It may take awhile, but it happens. But what makes my day is the comments like the one I got today. I was checking travel documents, and an elderly couple came through, probably don't travel much (or they may travel all the time), but after I looked at their id and the boarding passes, and they were about to head to the checkpoint, the lady looked at me and said "Thank you for what you do for our country". A few simple words go a long way to make somebody smile and I certainly appreciate comments such as this. So, for every one complaint, there are 4 compliments, same holds true for TSO's for every one "rogue" employee there are 4 of us who care about the job, and the people we see on a daily basis.
February 14, 2008 7:49 PM
It sounds like good technical training is in place. From what I have heard where people have had a problem with TSA, it sounds like many of them could be eliminated with some "customer service" type training.
Thank you for the new found openness. It is good to see.
February 14, 2008 8:38 PM
@tso phx,
I agree that it is not an easy job. People throwing things at you is not acceptable behavior. Those people do deserve to be pulled aside, and should be. After working for five years in retail customer service, I've had all kinds of crazy things happen: weapons pulled on me(knives, guns, box cutters, etc.), threatened with lawsuits, stuff thrown at me, and called every name in the book. Crazy people aside, you took the job knowing that a good portion of the people you will see are not in the best of moods. This is something that has been very common for quite some time. I have seen some very professional TSO's, and for the most part, TSO's are fairly good at dealing with people. It's the ones that aren't good at dealing with people that should be either put into a position where dealing with the public isn't a necessity, or let go. I would hope the first option is always available just for the sake of the TSO. My biggest issue is with the x-ray screeners, since that is where I have seen the most problem TSO's. It's not that I have anything against all of them, just the ones that aren't doing their job. I've just seen too many of them fooling around.
I certainly agree with you about the ones that cry loudest about customer service. I've noticed that trend too. Most of those people wouldn't last one shift in any service position.
February 14, 2008 8:44 PM
@phx tso - Many things that you can't bring on the plane is perfectly fine to place in your checked baggage. When in doubt put it in your checked baggage.
More accurately: When in doubt, spend the money to FedEx it. Never put anything in a checked bag that you aren't willing to do without, either temporarily or permanently.
I suspect that more and more passengers are going to be spending the money to FedEx their belongings to and from their destinations. That's the only to avoid the unreliability of airline checked bags as well as the frustration of arbitrary and capricious of TSA rules by screeners. FedEx seems the best solution to making air travel slightly less unpleasant.
February 14, 2008 10:53 PM
Dear Mr. Hawley,
I'd like you to respond to the article concerning the on-duty activities of one of your highly-trained and highly-professional screeners at O'Hare airport.
To save you the trouble of assigning action items to your staff, here is the link to the article in the Chicago Tribune:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-airport-agent-theft_bothfeb15,1,845467.story?ctrack=1&cset=true
In case the link doesn't work, here are the first couple of paragraphs:
"A federal security agent has been charged with stealing gift cards from a suitcase Dec. 25 while working at O'Hare International Airport, authorities said Thursday.
McIntosh is accused of removing $500 worth of Target and Best Buy gift cards from a bag while screening luggage, Assistant State's Atty. Erin Antonietti said. She said McIntosh spent some of the gift cards himself and gave others to friends."
Not only did Mr. McIntosh violate the public trust by stealing from the very citizens he is sworn to protect, he did this on CHRISTMAS DAY!
You must be very proud, sir.
Sincerely,
David Nelson
February 14, 2008 11:05 PM
Screener Joe: It isn't my job to prove the screening you folks do is worthwhile, that is TSA's job and TSA hasn't done it.
Mo's statistics like "[we] find two guns and around 2800 knives and blades [per day]" means almost nothing without knowing how many are there to be found, how many are missed, or how good you are at detecting things. If TSA gives out only fluff, the only thing people can do is make assumptions.
It a little bit reassuring to know that every checkpoint is tested with fake threats 7 times per day, but the fuzziness of Mo's "most of these items are detected" does not give me the warm furries. Especially when posters here report things like they noticed a tester hold up a bag up for the x-ray tech to see, and then the tech 'discovered' the item in his x-ray. Stories like the ones posted above by anonymous@February 14, 2008 5:55 PM also don't help.
Even if your x-ray folks have a superhuman 99% detection rate while you catch those 2800 knives, that last 1% means there's 28 knives getting by every day. That's basic event detection arithmetic.
And yes, I agree that you are not going to convince me that you folks are the only thing standing between us and flaming death unless you show us detection rates up past the (I again assume impossible) 99% level. Short of that, there are knife-carriers slipping by TSA every day and flying. The passengers, crew, and armored door are what keep those knives from doing harm, not TSA.
On the bright side, if your detection rates are closer to the industry standard of 80%, (that's me assuming again) the statistics of the system imply that when you do inevitably miss, you're much more likely to get a job demerit for missing a test item than causing the crash of a plane. IOW, the odds of a screener being responsible for missing a bomb in carryon that ends up crashing a plane might be about the same as winning the lotto--the screener will lose their job for screwing up on the tests long before they miss a real bomb.
February 14, 2008 11:19 PM
2,800 Knives and blades... Thats amazing!
February 15, 2008 5:54 AM
not about security...screening is political theater to create climate of fear so we keep paying for spectacle of security.
February 15, 2008 6:37 AM
@Anonymous 10:53 pm. If I'm on personal travel, why should I have to spend even more money? FedEx is expensive. You want to pick up the tab for me?
As far as business, a lot of my travel goes like this: take an airplane, then a taxi, then catch a COD flight to a Navy carrier. How the hell am I going to FedEx something to myself on a boat in the middle of the ocean?
February 15, 2008 8:33 AM
After reading the TSO comments in this blog, I had an opportunity to try one of their suggestions. I'm sitting in the WorldClub at Newark Liberty International as I type this.
The line as I came through about 7:45 wasn't bad, though it was apparently much longer a couple of hours earlier. Nevertheless, the screener out in front of the metal detector, and to a lesser extent the one waving people through the metal detector and checking boarding passes, were shouting at people, and the guy in front was especially loud and rude - and if you didn't do exactly as he said the instant he said it, he shouted at you even louder.
As I was repacking everything on the sterile side of the checkpoint, I stopped one of the folks and asked to see a supervisor. They made sure I had time to wait for him to finish what he was doing (I did, since my flight is at 11:25), then went and got him. I told him that he might want to explain to the people involved that this isn't boot camp and they're not drill sergeants, and what I'd seen. He agreed that one of the folks I was talking about was getting loud and annoyed, and said he'd speak to them about it. He then thanked me for telling him about it, and said that they wanted to get feedback from the public. I told him that's what I'd seen on this blog, and that was why I'd stopped to tell him.
I don't know if anything will actually happen, but at least the supervisor I talked to made all the right noises.
February 15, 2008 8:37 AM
Good job of screening your employees...From today's Chicago Tribune;
TSA baggage screener accused of stealing from suitcases
Tribune staff report
February 15, 2008
COOK COUNTY - A federal security agent has been charged with stealing gift cards from a suitcase Dec. 25 while working at O'Hare International Airport, authorities said Thursday.
Keith McIntosh, 35, an employee with the Transportation Security Administration, was ordered held in lieu of $30,000 bail by Circuit Judge Laura Sullivan. He was arrested Tuesday. His address was not available.
McIntosh is accused of removing $500 worth of Target and Best Buy gift cards from a bag while screening luggage, Assistant State's Atty. Erin Antonietti said. She said McIntosh spent some of the gift cards himself and gave others to friends.
McIntosh faces charges of theft and official misconduct, authorities said.
February 15, 2008 8:41 AM
HaHaHa, airport police shouldn't carry weapons through the sterile area...funny..."there can be some bad apples in law enforcement too" haha..as that is true, so we can let them be armed on the streets, but not in an airport...haha
February 15, 2008 11:27 AM
Screener Joe (February 14, 2008 7:05 PM) said:
"Screener pay rate is set by Congress as part of the budgeting process. Most screeners who have been with the organization very long would happily tell you that Congress is determined to avoid adequately compensating us."
I would like to add to this further by saying that the TSA also does not compensate for having a college degree. As a TSO with a college degree, I find that my education is worthless here. When TSA first took over, they started the screeners who were screeners pre-9/11 at a much higher rate than those who were coming in for the first time. Having a college degree does not help you earn at a higher rate, nor does it have any effect on promotions. If TSA would like to attract a higher quality employee, they should provide an incentive to those with college degrees.
Just to add to that, I also think that screeners with military backgrounds deserve pay incentives also.
February 15, 2008 11:42 AM
@Screener Joe: "Screener pay rate is set by C