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Nightmare ... in both directions! as well as a failure to locate knives in camera case that I wasn't aware of until I got to my destination.
Part of the issues w/ the LAX airport are not related to the TSA but the design of the airport in general. Hopefully, I can be clear about items that are TSA related.
I flew from ORD to LAX to BNE and back. On my outbound trip from ORD and LAX -- neither screening process found the 2 kitchen steakknives in my camera case (I did not know they were they, it's my son's camera). Imagine my shock when I opened the camera case in Australia and found the 2 knives in the case under the camera.
On both legs of my trip, I saw several issues w/ TSA in LAX. One of the most visible is the space between when your carry-on items go thru x-ray and where you walk thru the metal detector. I frequently travel with a laptop and a purse. My rule is to always be on the same side of security as my belongings. On the outbound, TSA was running my belongings thru before I could make it thru the metal detector. On the return, TSA was rushing me thru the metal detector while my stuff was still behind in x-ray.
I have never seen TSA run after anyone that has forgotten anything nor taken something that was not their own. I believe TSA should respect the request to be on the same side of security as their belongings.
I was searched, TWICE, in 2 days. Talking about going to the side, taking jacket off, being scanned, had my belongings searched for explosives and other bad things. My toothpaste, and AXE deodorant was taken because it was "too big." This is ridcious. Toothpaste? Are you serious?
What can I do with toothpaste? Squirt it in the pilots eyes?
Axe? Are you serious? deodorant is not considered a dangerous item?
I was screened twice, by the same person(s) for two reasons. The first time was a "random" check. Second time, they said I was flagged by the airline.
Security check points need to be moved into the long empty hallways towards the gates. I had to wait in line in a open walkway (over the road) for 40 minutes and it was very cold and windy! People should not have to wait in an area that is exposed to the weather and fumes from cars and busses!
You clearly have no idea why liquids are a threat. Your items were confiscated for a reason. Maybe you should check out the liquids posting on this site and such and do some research. Do you seriously think TSA is going to take things for no reason?
You would think LAX being a major airport would be more secure but it isn't. I have tested the airport with large liquids and with prohibited items, and my bag as a carrion has always gone through. No one has stoped to check it. If DHS hires all these TSO's why aren't they trained to do the job by the SOP??
If liquids over 3.4oz are prohibited due to the possible liquid explosives plot, why does TSA have large open containers right behind them where they just throw all the confiscated possible liquid explosives? Wouldn't that just put them in danger of being blown up???
To whom it may concern,
I traveled to Asia last Christmas. After the TSA screening my suit case is missing for 2 days. After founding it. Most of the items are missing. Yet, the tricky thing about this whole thing is. I have a TSA certified lock and it is still there. Yet the stuff inside is missing. I'm not sure if I can trust TSA to provide us security when the very basic theif problem isn't solved. Someone should look into this situation and hope this won't ever happen again.
We were making a connection in LAX to DFW from NRT (Japan) March 23rd, and the entire experience in LAX was by far the worst I have ever had. Horrible long TSA lines snaking down into the airline check-in booths, and poor overall leadership abound. Nobody seemed to know how to handle or care about the situation, and the treatment of customers was laughable. Arriving nearly 2 and a half hours early we nearly missed boarding call while agents fumbled with the line. (We only spent 45 minutes getting through customs) With an equal amount of customers and staff, the NRT security was quicker, more thorough, and much more pleasant. I recommend sending over a few TSA and airport mangers to NRT to see how things are done.
I think the TSA crew at LAX do a good job. I have flow out of their with my gaming PC rig a few times and the guys have taken good care during screeing while I observed, even reattaching the strap that held my acessories case shut. I wish the same could be said about the San Antonio TSA, they are on some kind of power trip.
Up until 18 months ago, i've had nothing but good and decent experiences at LAX with TSA as a whole. Nothing went missing, security lines were a breeze, everything was fine. Until my arrival leaving LAX to Vancouver, i arrived and was missing a pocket knife, and some minor bath stuff as someone (TSA likely) left my entire front zipper pocket open on my backpack which everything fell out of. No big deal, 50 bux at most in goods gone.
The next flight out of LA to Tokyo Japan, i took the same backpack, secured the zipper with zipties so it couldn't unzip on it's own in case it was caught on something. This time though my lighter, cigars, cigar cutter, and new pocket knife went missing. These items are all things that aren't allowed to be brought on board (unless they're snuck on, which i learned about later). These totalled about $200-250 dollars, i filed a complaint and got a check from American Airlines for $200, after 4 months of emails back and forth.
My most recent flight to Salt Lake City left me without a camera, as someone rummaged through my duffel bag (checked) and stole the camera out of the middle of 3 shirts (was wrapped around camera). I'm still in the process of trying to see reimbursement, but considering that every airline states that it doesn't cover photographic equipment and associated pieces, it's not looking good. But theft is theft, whether they stole a knife, gun, camera, it's all personal property that is stolen and should be reimbursed.
The fact that every airline has disclaimers against what they dont cover, goes to show what they have to account for being stolen, which is pretty much everything under the sun besides articles of clothing. If you look at the list, it covers nearly all electronics, money, keys, and other small items that can be hidden.
LAX is beginning to sound more and more like Philadelphia airport in the amount of thefts that occur.
I am amazed at the attitude of the TSA screeners. They have decided that travel sized tube of tooth paste that clearly is labeled as in compliance with the limit was not really the size it stated on the tube. Who made them the experts. This only one example of the arrogance they seem to be developing.
I have come to the point that as soon as I get to the security line I develop an attitude just know I am going to have to deal with them.
You really need to work with your people on dealing with the traveling public and apply the rules evenly and fairly.
This is what drives me nuts. What's the point of me riding my screeners to remain polite, taking them aside once a week to clear up questions on our SOP, and making sure they're paying attention when every third sup call I get is "they let it through...".
I do my best to make sure my officers know there job and do my best to instil in them the pride and the sense of duty that should come with being an officer of the United States Federal Service.
But all that is swept aside everytime they here a passenger telling them they got it through another airport. LAX is notorius inside.
I get to watch the morale of my new officers go to nothing in a few months because the ones that do care see that:
1.) No one else does
and 2.) Even if they do care they don't get recognized for it.
I try to tell them that we are like the police in the sense that we serve the public, we must uphold the public trust, and that at the end of the day we're here to protect them. And then they read this blog or hear it from a passenger, or work overtime and see another shift operate and know that no one else except for a small few feel this way, but no one cares.
For all the good I do, and the good my officers do, the passengers we do serve, who maybe, just maybe after dealing with officers under my command have a renewed faith in TSA or at the very least the checkpoint officers, is undone when they fly though other airports like LAX.
I've indented the wall with my forehead, and I don't know what else to do.
TSA needs to be sued. This is an organization that is employed by hoodlums or just anybody that signs an application for the job. Workers are so unprofessional. Its like dealing with high schoolers all over again excepts these are grown adults. Thank god I don't need to travel a lot. This is just a false sense of security to allow such searches and protocols to be effective. There is no mission statements for the TSA. I don't acknowledge such a organization that don't even know how to do their "job." This whole blog deal I believe is a false sense of consideration. Unless I see some sort of re-staffing and better service within this division, I will trash this division anywhere I can utilize my freedom of speech. This is ridiculous. I blame whoever is in charge of TSA for this. To the "blog author" if I don't see this posted... I will acknowledge that there is bias and pass this onto tv network connections that I know.
Does the TSA at LAX go out of its way to hire individuals that can only speal ebonics? I just love seeing individuals that work for the Federal Government wearing corn rows, saggy pants, or even have studs in their ears.
Does the TSA have some type of dress code? On one occassion I even saw and individual wearing a Lakers key chain around his neck. I did not realize that the TSA was endorsed by the LA Lakers.
TSA and attitude never..I had one TSA screener threat me with not allowing to board my plane because I looked at him wrong. The LAX TSA is one of the worst in the nation. I travel all the time. Do the screeners that check the ids get paid by how few ids they can check a hour? I have never seen a person move so slow.
The worst thing is there no accountability with regards to the TSA. They operate without the threat of losing their jobs. They can be as rude as they want to the general public and not be in fear of losing their jobs.
We should have something in place similiar to EL Al Airlines.
Whining Americans need to get over being humilated and inconvenienced. TSA needs to take there time and check thoroughly through all bags and people.
Traveling through London, I was patted down (privates and all) in front of everyone. Did I complain, NO, ITS FREAKIN SECURITY PEOPLE.
IF YOU GOT TO THE AIRPORT EARLIER, READ THE INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO GET THROUGH SECURITY, YOU WOULD BE THROUGH IN A FEW MINUTES.
The only people who complain are the "these rules dont apply to me" idiots.
How is it that TSA feels that piercings are a danger to the flying public? It is an absolute violation of our rights to be pat searched and humiliated in full view of the other passengers.
TSA spends more time dealing with obvious non-threats than dealing with actual threats.
I'd like to know why TSA stole my Thumb-Drive! What dangers do your people think a Thumb Drive holds?
There was important data on that drive, and I am now out the $60.00 That it cost me to purchase it!
I can almost understand your stealing my fold-up luggage cart, but I cannot accept the theft of my Thumb Drive!
This happened at LAX.
I have flown less than a dozen times since 9-11, mostly from LAX to SFO to Arcata, CA and back. One trip from LAX to Denver to Cheyenne was the worst time I ever had with TSA in LAX. My one trip from LAX to NWR and back went OK, but was probably due to having my wheelchair-bound Father with me.
During that time, I have been “randomly” searched at SFO three times (out of maybe six trips) and this was while I was changing flights and had not even left the passenger-only area. No one could/would explain how I could be “randomly” selected roughly 50% of the time.
On the trip from LAX to Cheyenne, my friend and I arrived at LAX nearly three hours early at the Frontier terminal, and were sent from the ticket counter to a long line at the one point of egress open. There were more than three hundred people in a long, winding line with only a few checkpoints.
I had packed any disallowed items in my checked luggage and had a single briefcase with my pocket items in a zip lock bag that went through the scanner. I had forgotten to remove my glasses from my shirt pocket, as they are so second nature to me I do not notice them.
As I went through the detector, an indicator light went off out of my line-of-sight and suddenly I was herded (literally) like an animal as TSA came swarming from all sides and surrounded me without any response to my requests as to what was happening. No one would say a word or look me in the eye. They acted just as the newsreels of WWII depicted the Germans acting when herding people to the camps from the trains.
When I expressed my displeasure at not being acknowledged or of not being treated as a human being, one of the TSA squad leaders came over and told me to stop berating his team, as they were only doing their job. He looked about 19 to me and appeared younger than anyone on his team. I told him that I would respect him and his team, when they respected me as a person. He basically ignored me as they continued to herd me into a cubicle, where they found absolutely nothing, as I knew would be the case.
There was no effort to be civil or apologize or act towards a passenger with respect. There was simply utter disdain for me and any rights I might have. I nearly missed my plane despite my early arrival, just because they wanted to act like little pr**ks under the cover of authority.
DHS (Department of Homeland Security) and TSA are fundamentally using their authority to deny basic civil liberties in their actions and methods. There is no regard for, or respect of, the passenger whose taxes, and ticket fees, pay their wages. The LAX TSA is one of the worst in the nation there is no accountability with regards to them. They operate without the threat of losing their jobs. They can be as rude as they wish (and usually are) to the general public and have no fear of losing their jobs.
I am completely aware of the need for increased security, but it should not be at the denial of basic civil liberties and courtesy, especially by a group of civil servants acting no better than common thugs.
I had heard horror stories from friends and family who had lost expensive items like cameras, ipods, jewelry, etc. to TSA employees with sticky fingers. But on a recent trip through LAX I experienced a new low. I was traveling to San Francisco and had $10 in quarters (to ride public transportation), and a pack of Dunhill cigarettes stolen from my checked bag. How can we take TSA seriously when they employ a bunch of petty thieves?! They claim to have a very rigorous screening process for prospective employees, but I bet it's nothing compared to the rigors they put us through to find our contriband bottles of shampoo and nail clippers. While we're on that subject, I had a TSA employee ask to frisk my calves to see if I had anything stashed there. That would be fine, however, I was wearing shorts and sandals at the time. Did he think I was smuggling something in a prosthetic leg, or under a ptach of fake skin like in Mission Impossible? I think he just got off on the power trip or feeling womens legs. Needless to say it was creepy, but if you don't want to be shuttled to the "little room" and miss your flight, you better comply. I think TSA is a joke and they do nothing to improve the safety of air travel.
Friday March 21st 5AM at LAX. Approached security in the AA terminal on my way to DFW. Advised them of my pacemaker. Was sent to 4 different lines before being patted down. TSA agent forgot to "red stamp" my boarding pass. Got to the gate for the bus to the satellite terminal and was told to wait for a TSA agent who came and patted me down again and searched my carry-on bag. He intitialed my boarding pass and left. Again,the AA gate agent wouldn't board me on the bus because I had no "Red Stamp". Finally a TSA supervisor was called and stamped my boarding pass. It took me 55 minutes to clear security. I am a 71 year old man in poor health and will not be flying anymore because of this experience. Too stressful.
I don't have time to read ALL the blogs, however, I did see one that told of having liquids pass thru undetected. I travel thru LAX quite often. A couple weeks ago, in my haste, I forgot to take my laptop out of it's carryon and into a separate tray. When I got to the other side, I told the screener of that; he just looked at me and continued his conversation with another TSA employee. As I was leaving the TSA area, I saw a gentleman sitting in a raised booth and advised him of this and he assured me he would look into. I feel TSA needs a procedure for EASILY reporting problems such as this so that they can either re-train or replace people who aren't doing their job. It takes two to tango!
Bring it on. Whatever you (TSA) needs to do in order to keep us safe. I don't have anything to hide.
I fly in/out of LAX Terminal 1 once or twice a month (20+ times in past 12 months), and in the past two months have flown out of Terminal 5 twice and Terminal 4 once. I usually do not check luggage. I've not had any problems. On Sundays the T1 line can get too long (goes outside, almost to Terminal 2). Suggest open the extra room earlier. Once line gets long it is tough to catch up, so suggestion is to be more proactive. Also, when checking luggage, it seems curbside capacity is not adequate, and inside checkin requires double-handling (checkin with airline to get tags, then have to schlep luggage over to baggage scanner area--that's preposterous, suggest change systme to not require passenger to handle luggage after checkin. Otherwise, in light of Terminal 1's massive (Southwest Airlines) volume, I can't believe how quickly I usually get through, so, ...Good Job! Terminals 4 and 5 have been eerily emptyish, so no issues there.
Face it... TSA is doing the best they can with the funding, tools and training they have. All of us are in such a hurry placing unnecessary stress on the TSA agents. I travel quite often, bi-weekly or weekly depending on the quarter. Most often traveling for business. Are things missed? Sure they are! Are things stolen? Sure! What you all fail to realize is that TSA agents are humans just like you and I. Some of them are there just for a paycheck and some are there to truly ensure the safety and security of today’s travelers. The agents who catch the over sized fluid containers and objects are the ones who truly care. The ones who let things slide through are the ones who are there for a paycheck. From the top TSA does its best as well all do to hire the most honest and truthful associates they can. Unfortunately some people have mastered the hiring process. This is why you see theft being an issue with TSA. As for items being missed, human error! Could you clearly identify all items in a bag through X-ray viewing only? They have a hard job dealing with difficult situations and people daily. I have had few items slip through; a few items come up missing and a few items taken. Upset… NO! I understand the travel policy. Preparing in advance I don’t pack items that are of great importance, items I have to “Sneak” because I know they are not allowed and other items that are questionable. If so I check them! Pack accordingly and be ready to strip down going through security. If you do this in advance you make the jobs of TSA agents easier and make the security lines go much faster for other travelers. Take extra time for the “What if”. You never know! TSA could use better people there is no doubt about it but dang… give them a break and maybe they will improve. Then again maybe if our fine president would take some funding and put it into TSA rather than other unnecessary programs we would have a better program. LAX agents are doing the same job as the agents of PDX, SFO, DFW, ORD, SUX, OMA, DEN, MSP and so many others. It’s an issue we face all over, not just one area! If you had an item slip through were you honest in finding a TSA Lead to let them know? Most likely you did not. If they don’t know who is slipping up how can they hold them accountable and improve? If you get your bag back and notice something missing do you again let a TSA Lead know? Most likely not and if you did not how can they hold that person accountable and improve? Take the extra moment to check your bag at the airport when you receive it back from TSA. Take note of the employee ID. All you want to do is point the finger at TSA but you fail to help them improve by just sitting back and criticizing. Help them help us and quit pointing fingers. Thank you TSA for attempting to make the travels of my family and myself safe. I appreciate your efforts!
I’m a business traveler who flies to new and different locations constantly. With a great consistency, LAX has the rudest TSA employees in all the many locations I have traveled to. The way they talk to me (often yelling instead of speaking) in a belittling tone that makes me feel like a second grader being punished disgusts me. They are the absolute, bottom of the barrel.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m actually not anti TSA, and believe in the program as a whole. I just think these folks need some training from TSA employees who do it “right” such as Phoenix Sky Harbor, or Hawaii who (in my experience) do a good job at keeping things moving while still treating us with common respect.
After my recent trip to China from March 12 thru March 20, 2008, I find it amazing that the Chinese version of the TSA doesn't xray shoes of its international passengers, including those whose destination is LAX. After de-boarding, all passengers wait in line for at least an hour to go thru customs. What a joke. If there was a bomb threat, liquid threat etc. it's already in your customs terminal.
And, yes, I know the 3 oz liquid rule has been in place for a couple of years. What difference does it really make if the liquid is in less than a 3 oz container. 3 oz of this mixed with 3 ox of that and 3 oz of a third item could still, a fourth, etc. could still possibly make a "bomb". Can face cleaners, toothpaste, shampoo, & drinking water really pose that great of a threat? I think not in any oz size. The US has gone completely crazy with the 3 oz rule. It doesn't protect any one, just ensures that the TSA employees have something to dig thru, and the producers of such items in larger sizes than 3 oz make more money on their air traveling consumers at the destination airport.
Lastly, please tell me why you can take an empty plastic bottle thru all check points and fill it up beyond the check point and take it onto the plane? Could have mixed something up with my various 3 oz containers and created a "bomb". ?Also, it doesn't make any sense that airport employees come in and off the tarmac with water bottles, etc. How often are they screened? At time of employment? Do their loyalties lie elsewhere? Doesn't make me feel very safe, just makes me feel like a criminal in my own county.
I would just like to know where
do you get your security people
that has NO common sense about their jobs?? It is very disturbing!!
My boyfriend and I flew into and out of LAX last summer (summer 07') while going to see his dad.
Maybe it was because I had my airline badges (I worked on the ramp for a Delta connection carrier) and my boyfriend had his TSA badges hanging around our necks.. I don't know...
But all of the TSA screeners I remember encountering were nice. A good majority were every funny!! They were joking around and having fun with me, the other passangers, and each other. At the same time they were still doing their job very well!
Also, we got through the check point in like 10 minuets or less!
(This was in the Delta terminal by the way.)
I found the queue management at LAX frustrating extremly long lines confusion from passengers about where lines started and where they ended. Sometimes they stretched outside the terminal.
The process seemed ok but always not enough places to get your stuff together after the inspection. I went through when I was very ill once and was in a wheel chair someone elses laptop was put in my bag and then when it was shipped to me it had no packing.
Not sure how to improve but need to use benches which dont have sudden changes in elevation and do not put 2 queues on one machine
It amazes me that an airport the size of LAX cannot process air travelers more quickly than they do. It appears when waiting in line for final screening there are approx. 15 TSA agents standing idle while 150+ passengers wait in line for 2 of the 10 screening belts that are active. This reminds me of a retail store that has 100 cash registers but only 2 functional. LAX is a model of government inefficiencies.
Good evening. I would like to make a comment about the lack of TSA personnel in the middle of the day when you are traveling through LAX. I recently flew Delta twice departing from Terminal Five and my flight was at 2:30pm. I arrived at the aiport at 1:15pm and checked in which only took a minute at the kiosk. I then proceeded to go through security. At that time of day there was only one lane open and the line was extremely long. People were waiting patiently but it took a very long time to get through. Upon picking up my belongings I asked the TSA gentleman why there weren't more screeners and he indicated that if I had a complaint to tell the supervisor on duty. He also said that the government had cut back on the number of screeners and that most of the workers were doing split shifts so there would be adequate coverage in the AM and PM but not necessarily in the middle of the day.
I stopped and spoke with the supervisor and he actually handed me a printed card made up referencing this website. He also said that they get significant complaints about this issue but at this point there is no resolution.
My comment is that why can the government and TSA in particular do a better job of monitoring stations such as this and if help is needed bring someone out to help. While waiting in line I watched a significant number of TSA going in and out of their breakroom but no one came to help the long line of passengers. If you want the passengers not to be angry then perhaps a better handle on true customer service might help. Thank you.
My biggest complaint is the "random" screening of elderly people and kids. Although terrorists are now using women to carry out their suicide missions, they have not ever used small children or old people. So why the extra screening for this age group? Kids are traumatized by it and seniors have no patience for it. My six year old daughter was tagged for extra screening. Can the TSA explain that away? While she was being checked for exploding liquids, I noticed an elderly man in obvious physical pain going through secondary screening. Yet many passengers are flagged by airline staff checking people in...based on what questionable criteria I wonder?
I hate to say this considering the mixed audience that reads these blogs, but let's get real; racial profiling would solve the majority of security related issues! In my opinion, there is no reason for secondary screening on non-Arabs. Since the TSI supposedly has access to FBI and CIA databases, they should be able to catch the non-Arab sympathizers before they ever get to the security checkpoints. However, if someone is really that hell-bent on sneaking contraband through security, they will find a way to do it...most likely through the "back door" of the airport using one of the many contractors that work with the airlines.
I could see being obsessed with the liquids prohibition for international flights, especially originating from another country. But banning touthpaste and bottled water on domestic flights? Get real! A simple solution would be to require all toiletries to be stowed away on check-in luggage and request that passengers drink the questionable liquid in front of TSA personnel if they want to bring it on board. No one likes paying exhorbitant airline terminal prices for bottled water!
I used to love flying, but now avoid it like the plague if I can. I would rather rent a car and drive across half the country than put up with the security B.S. The irony is the fact that the terrorists will most likely choose a different, "softer target" next time rather than risk blowing their assets on the airlines. I do realize that the TSA agents do their best, but where has common sense gone in the screening process? People do sneak things through all the time while others who follow the rules are subjected to secondary searches. I would love to see politicians, celebrities, and TSA brass subjected to these same security measures every time they fly. Honestly, I don't believe that the people in power would put up with it for too long...
I was in line to go through security and noticed that my line was out of the small white tubs for the valuables. There were only big grey tubs. So seeing that the adjacent line had plenty of the white tubs I took one and started to place my cellphone, watch and coins in it. That was when the female TSA office on the adjacent line which I took the tub from started flying off the handle and started yelling at me. "Put it back! You put that tug back right now!! I was incensed by her rudeness but I did what I was told without saying a word. When my turn came up in my line I asked the seated TSA officer to get me a white tub for my valuables. He now had to stop the line, get up and borrow some from the same line I previously took the white tub from. The female TSA officer's action simply did not make sense. And why was she allowed to be so rude? I wasn't being rude to her. Matter of fact, I didn't even say one word to her! When I got through my line I requested to speak to a supervisor but I was told there weren't any there. Is that true? How is TSA going to get our support and cooperation when they are allowed to act in any way they wish?
I am an American citizen and LAX is my home airport. I am a frequent flyer (United 1K member) of United Airlines and go through the TSA checkpoint for United's Terminal 7 at LAX at least once a week.
I have *never* had a problem with the TSA staff at LAX. You guys are doing a good job considering you have limited space to work in.
I am embarrassed by the ignorant comments posted on this blog.
Keep up the good work! You will never please everyone and 80% of those complaining on here are the sources of their own problems and use others to blame for their mistakes and stupidity.
As a TSA officer who works at LAX, it saddens me to see so many negative comments regarding the job we do. Personally, and not speaking in any official capacity for the TSA, all I can say is that the challenge we face every day is enormous. A TSO will see thousands of passengers in a day. LAX was not designed for this level of screening and I can understand the frustration many of you feel waiting in such long queues. I know that the vast majority of TSO's are dedicated and hard working. Our conditions are not ideal and we are subjected to many stresses during our trying day. I am proud of the work I do. I try to respect everyone and remember that each person I meet is an indiviual. I do not consider myself above the law, but am in fact sworn to uphold the regulations put forth by our elected officials. If you have a complaint, I will listen patiently and either assist you or find someone who can. Rude employees are a problem can found in every occupation. We are frequently given training in customer service and yes, can even lose our job. Unfortunately for us, rude and uncooperative passengers appear frequently as well. After all these years many people do not even know what the TSA is nor that we are federal officers. I do understand your frustrations. I hope you understand ours.
TSA workers need to try and stop making rediculous comments when going through peoples property. It is already degrading enough that you are looking through our luggage. Think if the role was reveresed how they would feel. Sometimes just because you are wearing a badge it numbs that part of the brain that makes you human.
I have read every comment up to date and have laughed at many of the complaints listed up to this point.
People do not realize the policies and procedures that these TSA officers need to follow. The only thing that these passengers care about is that they make it to their flight.
"TSA is a reflection of the traveling public".
This is what I mean by the above. A passenger enters the checkpoint in a bad mood maybe because they are late for a flight, have a headache, or maybe just have built up frustation inside of them. They reach a TSA Officer and are rude, upset, often yell, and just make an scene for all the other passengers to see. This just ruined the officers day and will be passed on to the next passenger that this officer has to deal with.
I mean come on now, How many people really belive that cell phone, coins, and belts have no metal in them? It's called a metal detector and it detects METAL!!!
TSA treats everyone the same. Older people often often have METAL replacements in their bodies and need to undergo additional screening. Whats so hard to believe about that? Nipple piercing's, guess what its METAL and your going through a METAL DETECTOR, what do you think is going to happen? TSA is here to assure that everyone is safe and has no prohibited items on their persons.
My thoughts on theft:
TSA is not the only one who handles your bag. LAX has only a couple of areas where their baggage handling is behind the scenes. This means if YOU deciede to leave your bag before it is clear security then YOU will have to worry about TSA going into your baggage without you there. If YOU stay and watch your luggage clear through security you have full knowledge that TSA did not even open your bag, or if they did you were a witness on what was the reason to insepection of your baggage. Now that TSA has done their job your bag goes downstairs through conveyors and meets with airline bag handlers who are not in the view of any cameras and can do what they want with your luggage even lose it if they want. Think about that next time your watch, laptop, or camera goes missing.
Get to the airport early. 4 hours in advance is what is suggested. If you decide that your wonder woman or superman and you can do it an hour I'm sure I will be seeing your posting along with the rest on here complaing on how you were treated bad by TSA.
Listen to the saying: Kill them with kindness. A smile will go a long way.
P.S. More Comments to come in the future. Thanks for all the laughs!
Chaotic and slow, that's the way I would describe LAX.
I'm not really a frequent flyer, but I have been through 8 different airports so far this year. So I personally know what I need to do to clear a checkpoint quickly and have some basis for comparison. Some checkpoints are more organized than others.
LAX (at the NWA terminal) was the most chaotic of them all. Perhaps this is partly due to the space they have to work with, what with passengers entering on one level and then having to go up to a second level to actually get through the checkpoint. But even the checkpoint just seemed to be absolute chaos.
I wasn't treated rudely or anything. But it seems like they would have this better organized by now. It really stood out as poor compared to other places.
I travel a lot between LAX and various areas in Mexico. I always try to be up-to-date with what is not allowed and allow plenty of time to go through security. For the most part, the TSA officials speed you through and do a good job. I never had anything missing. Long Beach is a different story. Three times flying via JET BLUE through Long Beach to Ft. Lauderdale and Dominican Republic to Long Beach, each time, my art books, art albums, and art documents were taken.
Why must we show our boarding pass to the TSA person after we've walked through the scanner? We have already shown it to the first TSA person and he/she has checked it against our ID as well as determined that our ID is legitimate? It is a hassle to handle the boarding pass when you're trying to put all of your items in the bins and run through the xray machine. AARGH!
just now i experienced the first day of a new line procedure. who ever came up with this idea obviously never travels, and should be fired immediatly. I fly every week and your terminology of expert,casual and family traveler makes no sense. For example I am a gold flyer but sometimes have two bags with me, so does that mean I am not an 'expert' that day? So if I am someone who knows what TSA is and have no big bags doesthat make me an expert? give me a break. this new process is so ridiculous that I am not only posting a blog for my first time, but I am paying this internet access computer in the airport to do it. Really who thought of this?
I would like to complain about a recent experience I had with your personnel while traveling from SJC to AKL (via LAX). March 23 @ 1730 hrs. I am a hunter and have traveled more than 100 flights w/ a rifle in baggage since 911. This was my worst and most aggravating trip because your people (supervisor included) does not know the policies of Qantas Airways and evidently the rules of both NZ and Australia. I went from SJC-LAX on Southwest. No problems. Upon checking in w/ Qantas they inspected the rifle/case and noted on the baggage tag and logged the firearm. When I took the rifle to TSA for screening, I was stuck there for more than one hour as they insisted I had to have a firearms declaration tag in the gun case so the pilot would know there was a gun onboard! Does the pilot look in the case? Was I the first person since 911 not to have the form? Please note Qantas has no such form and doesn't require the form. There personnel had no knowledge of any form. After 7+ years, why was this happening to me. Was mine the first to ever be inspected? NO!! Your people, supervisor included were wrong and caused me great stress and almost ruined the trip. Thank heaven for the Qantas supervisor (Debra) who quickly straigtened your folks out and got my rifle cleared (sans 'necessary' declaration form)
Please educate your personnel, especially your supervisors.
mojomajor --- Sorry you experienced inconvenience with our program that is supposed to make the screening process more convenient. The fact is, you got us on the first day of operation at LAX and the bugs had not yet been worked out. In other airports we have found it takes a couple of days to get the system moving smoothly. As for your questions about whether or not you are expert, expert lanes are for those that are very familiar with our screening operations and you make the decision which line to go to. While we have security officers to help, if you think you are an expert, go to expert... it's up to the passenger, therefore termed self-select. Hopefully your next time through, it will be more smooth. Apologies again.
EoS Blog Team
Unfortunately there are many passengers who complain greatly about TSA. I am a current TSO and take great pride in my job and its mission. We are there for the safety of the passengers and for the security of this country.
One hears the same complaints over and over, what is water going to do, what am I going to do with toothpaste etc. it seems that most of the complaining traveling public does not see or hear the news. This happens for a good reason and you, whiner, should understand why this happens. You see it all over the news and announcements:"TRAVEL LIGHT", people seem to take everything and the kitchen sink in their carry on luggage, what is the deal with that, but any way.
You get the passenger who is late, irate, and wants to be spoiled and escorted to the gate, was it the TSA employee (TSO) who made you late.... NO! You are late because you decided to be late. Give yourself sufficient time to go through all the process.
Rude TSO's.. Yes there are TSO's who lack customer service skills but if you experience that then maybe you should bring it up right there and there. Don't wait to complain in a blog or to someone else who will NOT help you in any way.
All in all understand that one of the airports that is a great priority to attack by terrorist is LAX. Don't expect to have everything ride smoothly because WE DO NOT TRUST ANYONE! If you give us attitude then do not expect to be treated like royalty, you abide by the rules then you will have a great experience. You get what you give.
Next time you travel, please plan ahead...if you do this you will have a better experience with TSA.
You should know the airlines controls TSA, just as they do the FAA and most managers at TSA are from the airlines with no security background or understanding of people (remember the airlines over book and can give a rats a..). I worked at LAX for three years and I am sure the supervisor will receive a MOC for standing his ground. By the way, how was your trip, what did you tag with you gun?