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In-Line Baggage Screening: Increased Security and Convenience

Tuesday, December 09, 2008

Most Americans know that all checked luggage is required to go through screening before it goes onto the plane, but what happens behind the scenes? One of two types of screening systems are being used at airports across the country. “Stand-alone” inspection systems can often be found in the public lobby of an airport terminal near the airline check-in counters—although they are sometimes installed in locations outside of public view. These labor-intensive systems are typically used in small airports or in specific zones with low baggage volumes.



“Stand-Alone” Baggage Screening System Schematic

“In-Line” inspection systems, unlike their stand-alone counterparts, use heavily automated networks of Explosive Detection Systems (EDS) able to handle thousands of bags each hour at busy airports. More than half of the 2 million people that fly each day go through airports with in-line baggage screening systems.

These systems use conveyor belts to automatically screen, sort, and track baggage. Multiple EDS machines are linked to a centralized control room and several “resolution rooms.” When a bag triggers an alarm, the bag’s image is transmitted to the resolution room where trained officers determine whether a physical inspection is warranted.

If a physical inspection is required, the bag is routed via conveyor belt to an inspection area where TSA officers screen the contents of the bag while under constant supervision by closed circuit TV. A notice is placed inside each bag that is physically examined indicating an inspection took place. If there’s a problem afterward, the CCTV footage can be used to determine if a particular bag was indeed hand-searched and by whom. Once an alarm is resolved, the bag is placed back on the conveyor belt and sent on its way to the plane.

Other benefits of this technology: since the in-line system is heavily automated, the number of physical injuries sustained by officers due to lifting baggage is reduced, TSA can track each and every bag throughout the process.


“In-Line” Baggage Screening System Schematic
To learn more about how in-line baggage systems work, check out this link .

Comments

Submitted by Anonymous on

When will Checked Baggage be safe from airport thieves?

Submitted by Anonymous on

My question is whether the surveillance on the TSA agents doing these searches has been stepped up after the series of rather embarassing (for the TSA) scandals wherein employees were stealing customers' property and although I know that you can't really go into specifics at least broadly what that consists of.

quis custodiet ipsos custodes seems to apply especially when the TSA is concerned.

Submitted by Ayn R Key on
Other benefits of this technology: since the in-line system is heavily automated, the number of physical injuries sustained by officers due to lifting baggage is reduced, TSA can track each and every bag throughout the process.

Good job on updating that part of the process. Hopefully this will reduce thefts by TSA inspectors.

But who monitors the bags once they leave TSA custody? That's still the biggest security hole.
Submitted by Trollkiller on

I did not see where a cheap but effective strapping machine was placed in the mix.

Submitted by North Carolina ... on

I'm still wondering why they can't hire the Israelis to teach them how to do screening at the airport

Submitted by HSVTSO Dean on

Dreeeaaammm... dream, dream, dreeeaaam... about yoouuu....

I'll be expecting an in-line baggage system in HSV by about the time I'm set to retire in 2040.

That said, the ones I've heard about do seem really cracker-jack.

Submitted by Anonymous on

When are you going to strap bags to keep them secure after inspection and prevent theft?

Submitted by Anonymous on

No response so asked again!
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Bob, would you please give a pointer to the mandate that says TSA must report people who are carrying certain amounts of currency on domestic flights.

I would like to read that directive and also see who signed it!

December 1, 2008 2:31 PM

December 3, 2008 10:07 AM

December 4, 2008 10:16 AM

December 5, 2008 9:12 AM

December 9, 2008 CENSORED and NOT POSTED

and again today, December 10, 2008

Submitted by Anonymous on

Why has commenting on "Got Feedback/General Comments" and "A Word from out Lawyers" been disabled?

How can a person post a comment or question that you censor as being off topic if you limit the other avenues of posting.

How come you cannot answer even the most basic questions when asked.

Would you please restate the purpose of this blog?

Submitted by Anonymous on

Our ambition is to provide here a forum for a lively, open discussion of TSA issues. While I and senior leadership of TSA will participate in the discussion, we are turning the keyboard over to several hosts who represent what’s best about TSA (its people). Our hosts aren’t responsible for TSA’s policies, nor will they have to defend them -- their job is to engage with you straight-up and take it from there. Our hosts will have access to senior leadership but will have very few editorial constraints. Our postings from the public will be reviewed to remove the destructive but not touch the critical or cranky.

Please be patient and good-humored as we get underway. The opportunity is that we will incorporate what we learn in this forum in our checkpoint process evolution. We will not only give you straight answers to your questions but we will challenge you with new ideas and involve you in upcoming changes.

One of my major goals of 2008 is to get TSA and passengers back on the same side, working together. We need your help to get the checkpoint to be a better environment for us to do our security job and for you to get through quickly and onto your flight. Seems like the way to get that going is for us to open up and hear your feedback...

Thanks for joining us,
Kip Hawley
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Well, there is the direction given by Kip. So far this blog has been everything buy what he stated.

My understanding of "discussion" is that it takes at least two parties to accomplish.

TSA spouting out "Weekly Propaganda" and posting comments is not discussion.

Why don't you Bloggers try a new concept? Give discussion a try! We would all benefit.

Submitted by Anonymous on

As for your comment on providing pre-9/11 passenger convenience with post-9/11 security for checking baggage, how about working on the same balance of passenger convenience and security at the passenger checkpoint? That would increase passenger convenience much more, yet with better security.

Submitted by Anonymous on

Our airport was going to get these from the very beginning- except two airlines refused them. I'm not sure why they had any say, but we sure would still like to see these systems.

Submitted by Anonymous on

From the TSA Information for Travelers Web Page 12/10/2008:

Make Your Trip Better Using 3-1-1
3-1-1 for carry-ons = 3 ounce bottle or less (by volume) ; 1 quart-sized, clear, plastic, zip-top bag; 1 bag per passenger placed in screening bin. One-quart bag per person limits the total liquid volume each traveler can bring. 3 oz. container size is a security measure.
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TSA continues to provide incorrect information to travelers.

If TSA can't get it right then why should travelers be expected to?

Are TSA employees inmcompetent? Don't they care that the information being presented to travelers is wrong?

Pretty sad that even simple things are left undone by TSA.

Submitted by Anonymous on

Since TSA has implemented baggage screening, it has a significant cost measurable in lives. Do you think you can undo it with this new system? Or will it make it easier for TSA agents to conspire with theives?

(In the article, the TSA X-rayers and screeners told accomplices what to steal. Your supervised screening recorded on CCTV can't prevent that. More stringent restrictions on carryons which force people to check their valuables, coupled with better screening equipment that can identify valuables makes this problem more attractive for theives. No wonder the truly rich avoid commercial flights.)

Submitted by Anonymous on

Explain to me why, on my last trip through FLL, a TSO decided to do an "inspection" on one of my bags BEFORE it went through the CTX?

Her reply (and a hostile one at that, just short of "do you want to fly today") was that it was a "random inspection"; however, this "random inspection" was in violation of TSA's SOP and I called her on it. Since it was on a Saturday (when numerous cruise ships arrive) I'm thinking there was more than airline safety in the mind of this TSO.

The only amusing part of this experience was that the bag the TSO chose was loaded with a week's worth of dirty clothes. She opened the bag - looked inside - slapped the greeting card on top of the dirty laundry - closed the bag. That was the extent of her "random inspection".

I feel SO much safer now.

Submitted by HappyToHelp on
Anonymous said...
"Bob, would you please give a pointer to the mandate that says TSA must report people who are carrying certain amounts of currency on domestic flights."

No such document is around. Now if we reword your question.

"Bob, would you please give a pointer to the official TSA document that says a Transportation Security Officer must report people who are transporting more then 10k through a US government airport check point, airport, and any other area's located with'in the airport TSO's conduct adminstrative searches.

This would be located in the SOP(Standard Operating Procedures).

Currently, the SOP is SSI(senstive security information) and can not be disclosed under 49 CFR part 1520.

Bob has gone over the whys(check old blog comments)of these rules. So I won't go into that.

Hope this helps.
Submitted by Anonymous on

Your Checked Baggage is not safe from TSOs and others that want your I-Phone, money, computer or cash. As for security most don't use OSARP (the way it should be used)when screening your bags. The only thing in-line will do is take a baggage staff of 20 per shift down to 12.

Submitted by Anonymous on

I really don´t understand the point of this blog. I cannot think of one policy change by the TSA as a result of the many, high-quality, discussions and suggestions here.

Trollkiller´s suggestion of strapping checked luggage is a simple and cost-effective way to close a major hole in securing luggage. Many TSOs posting here agreed it was a great idea. Yet, the suggestion has been completely ignored.

Meanwhile, the TSA is investing heavily in whole body imaging (also known as virtual strip-searching), a ineffective practice since it cannot detect anything within body cavities and is a choice (which means the 1 in a billion terrorist will simply chose what works best for him/her).

Why? Imagers are there in front of the public, strapping machines are not. It is all for show.

Submitted by Custom Patches on

Very interesting technology. Hopefully these kinds of improvements will help streamline security.

Submitted by Anonymous on

Correct. Dialog does require a back and forth communication between two or more people. Sadly, this doesn't often happen on this blog. People ask valid questions and all too often the questions get ignored by those that have the power to answer the question.

As a frequent flier I have a better chance of running into a thief than a TSO has of encountering a terrorist, but I get treated as if I were an unindicted terrorist. What's wrong with this picture?

Submitted by Anonymous on

Another TSA Holiday? 5 Blog Ops but none have the time to maintain the blog. Probably out harassing some poor soul in a wheel chair.

It's TSA, I understand!

Submitted by Anonymous on

Why is pie exempt from liquid and gel restrictions?

Is this a holiday-specific exemption, or an ongoing change in policy?

Is it because pies pose no danger? Neither do any other liquids TSA has barred citizens from traveling with.

Is it because pies are a food item? Then will TSA stop barring bottled beverages, peanut butter, and other foodstuffs that pose no danger to anyone from planes?

Is it because barring pies from flights would be pointless, stupid, and do nothing to make anyone safer? Neither do TSA's other liquid policies.

What recourse does a citizen have if a TSO and that TSO's supervisor decide not to let a pie through screening?

Submitted by Anonymous on

HappyToHelp said...
Anonymous said...
"Bob, would you please give a pointer to the mandate that says TSA must report people who are carrying certain amounts of currency on domestic flights."

No such document is around. Now if we reword your question.

"Bob, would you please give a pointer to the official TSA document that says a Transportation Security Officer must report people who are transporting more then 10k through a US government airport check point, airport, and any other area's located with'in the airport TSO's conduct adminstrative searches.

This would be located in the SOP(Standard Operating Procedures).

Currently, the SOP is SSI(senstive security information) and can not be disclosed under 49 CFR part 1520.

Bob has gone over the whys(check old blog comments)of these rules. So I won't go into that.

Hope this helps.

December 10, 2008 6:56 PM
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Are you a spokesperson for TSA?

If not I cannot accept your response as official. There would be no reason to assign an SSI designation to this procedure other than to cover up an unlawful act. There is no law or restraint to carry any amount of currency within this country. For TSA to even concern themselves with this is abusive. There is no restraint other than proper disclosure for carrying these large amounts in to or out of the country and once again is of no concern to TSA.

Now if you want to step up and state that you are in fact an official spokesperson for TSA then all I need from you is your full name and office.

Submitted by Anonymous on

TSA cant do security like the Israeli's, want to know why? because ISRAEL IS A DIFFERENT COUNTRY/WITH DIFFERENT LAWS, you people all say you want security like the israeli's, then write to congress and have them change it, Israeli's also profile, you want that too? TSA needs to improve yes, hopefully the new administration will make these changes happen, i believe TSA is doing the best it can, with what they have as an organization

Submitted by Anonymous on

HappyToHelp said...

Transportation Security Officer must report people who are transporting more then 10k through a US government airport check point, airport, and any other area's located with'in the airport TSO's conduct adminstrative searches.

This would be located in the SOP(Standard Operating Procedures).

Currently, the SOP is SSI(senstive security information) and can not be disclosed under 49 CFR part 1520.

Didn't you just divulge SSI?

What else is in this secret SOP?
Who writes this SOP?
Who approves these procedures?

What else can the flying public encounter when doing absolutely nothing illegal, yet because of secret rules, can be harassed.

How can carrying cash (legally) have any effect on the security of the aircraft?

It is very scary when a government agency can write and enforce rules, all behind the veil of secrecy.

Don't you think ALL the rules and regulations that we may encounter at the checkpoint SHOULD be provided to the public. I didn't know that in America we had secret laws.

I think the terrorists have won.

Submitted by Sandra on

HappyToHelp wrote:

"......"Bob, would you please give a pointer to the official TSA document that says a Transportation Security Officer must report people who are transporting more then 10k through a US government airport check point, airport, and any other area's located with'in the airport TSO's conduct adminstrative searches.

This would be located in the SOP(Standard Operating Procedures)."

Are we to take from your rephrasing of the question and your response to yourself, that the TSA has the authority to "report" people who are not doing anything illegal?

Submitted by Sandra on

Can you please get this blog fixed so that "magic words" don't have to be entered twice in order to submit a comment?

Submitted by Anonymous on

Actually, HappyToHelp, Blogger Bob answered a question about cash in November:

"Anon, we are not avoiding this. We have answered it before. It is not our mission to find drugs or currency, but we are mandated to report it once we find it. Wouldn’t it seem odd if a Federal Security Officer found drugs in your bag and simply said “Oh, it’s just cocaine, they’re good to go. “ “Nevermind, it’s just a stack of childporn.” The cash scenario might seem odd, but red flags pop up when passengers try to carry certain amounts of undeclared currency overseas. We have to report it."

Please note the word OVERSEAS.

The question you responded to was about domestic travel.

So is it required that travelers with more than $10,000 in cash who are traveling in-country be reported?

Submitted by George on
Another TSA Holiday? 5 Blog Ops but none have the time to maintain the blog. Probably out harassing some poor soul in a wheel chair.

Believe it or not, the lack of timely moderation of this blog doesn't bother me. I would hope that the people who "maintain the blog" have more important things to do than that. If the TSA dedicated even one employee to this blog full-time (or enough to allow rapid posting of comments), I'd consider it a major waste of taxpayer money.

What does bother me is that the people who "maintain the blog" consistently ignore valid questions, criticism, and suggestions that people repeatedly post here. In doing that, they're ignoring the opportunity to improve their operation along with their very sorry reputation with the public. I thought that was the purpose of this blog. If that was indeed the purpose, the blog is a failure (just like the TSA itself).

I suspect the TSA leadership have recognized that failure and have given up on it. In the early days the people who ran this blog would at least respond to comments. The responses usually were repetitions of the official party line, defenses of the TSA or TSOs, statements that they couldn't answer the questions because the information is SSI, or sometimes outright lies. But at least they took us seriously enough to respond, even though the response wasn't helpful or productive. Now they don't even bother to acknowledge us. If an earlier post from an anonymous TSO is any indication, they consider our comments as "babbling" and not worth wasting their time. They still want to keep the blog around for occasional posts of self-congratulatory propaganda, but the comments are nothing more than an echo chamber where people who have issues with authority and can't understand or appreciate the great work the TSA is doing can babble incessantly to themselves.

The TSA still has severe credibility and public relations problems, which if anything this blog has only worsened. Presumably these problems will be one of the great many troubled legacies the Bush administration will bequeath to Obama (and to the nation). And because the TSA's problems are insignificant compared to the other crises the new administration will have to contend with, I don't see TSA improvements as a priority. So things will most likely continue exactly as they are now.
Submitted by Anonymous on

Strapping machines are not the answer to the hole in security you speak of. They can secure baggage sure but if someone wanted to steal from your bag or put something in it they will not serve the purpose you want. A strapping machine can strap a bag and you can take the strap off with just your hands. You don't even need a knife. So how does that secure your luggage? It doesn't. Problem not fixed so I would suggest something else.

-James

Submitted by Anonymous on
Why is pie exempt from liquid and gel restrictions?

Maybe not that many pies fly through the checkpoint and they can take the time to screen them accordingly just like baby bottles and such now.

Is this a holiday-specific exemption, or an ongoing change in policy?

It has been that way for a while now.. not a holiday period exemption.

Is it because pies pose no danger? Neither do any other liquids TSA has barred citizens from traveling with.

Over and over again on this blog there is information on liquids and gels. They pose a threat so get off that subject. It is possible for a pie to pose a threat if it were tampered in some way. You just keep on thinking outside the box and it will come to you.

Is it because pies are a food item? Then will TSA stop barring bottled beverages, peanut butter, and other foodstuffs that pose no danger to anyone from planes?

If every item like that were to be screen then the checkpoint would go very slow and no one would be flying. I doubt the public wants that.

Is it because barring pies from flights would be pointless, stupid, and do nothing to make anyone safer? Neither do TSA's other liquid policies.

Probably because it is a waste of a good pie :-P

What recourse does a citizen have if a TSO and that TSO's supervisor decide not to let a pie through screening?

Um well I'm sure if it gets to a supervisory level and they cannot clear the item then it should not go. If they can't clear it I believe that is a good enough reason to not let something go through security. People should be mindful of that even if it really is just a pie.
Submitted by Anonymous on

however, this "random inspection" was in violation of TSA's SOP and I called her on it.
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Wow good job. And how is it you knew that it was in violation of anything!?

Submitted by Anonymous on

Correct. Dialog does require a back and forth communication between two or more people. Sadly, this doesn't often happen on this blog. People ask valid questions and all too often the questions get ignored by those that have the power to answer the question.
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Valid questions! Ha! The questions are ignored because there are hardly valid questions asked. It is the same questions over and over. Questions that are either none of the persons concern or questions that have been answered over and over, but no one likes the answer. Oh and a lot of the questions are very ignorant! Half the time they are not even worthy of an answer. You compainers believe that your questions have not been answered since you do not like the answer you have been given. I'm telling you this blog is a waist!

Submitted by Anonymous on

Probably out harassing some poor soul in a wheel chair.
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Your right, poor souls. Because a terrorist can not sit down in a wheel chair and pretend like they are handycap and in pain. Right!
Or a person with bad intentions can not hide a dangerous item on their elderly parent or handycap child. People do these things you know.
If they are sick enough to hurt other people, it usually does not matter if it is someone that they know or don't know.
There is no harrassment going on at the checkpoints. None! There are sick people out there. You can not look at someone and tell if they are worthy of hurting another human being.
There is no profiling of young or old, of handycap or not.
Everyone can leave the word harrassment out of their statements because you obviously have no idea what the goal of security is.

Submitted by Anonymous on

I have not visited for a few months.....it is as if I never left. The same knuckleheads are still asking the same questions.

Submitted by Marshall's SO on

To the anonymous poster who "responded" sequentially to three other posts: if you want to be taken seriously, learn to spell and use proper grammar.

Submitted by Anonymous on

The 9000 room at terminal 4 is in-line and the TSOs worked as a team to shop in your checked baggage during screening. the TSA needs leaders not in-line baggage.

Submitted by Anonymous on

To Blogger Bob and company,

Please do a blog article outlining exactly why the TSA is required to report large amounts of cash found on a person who is flying completely within the borders of the USA.

Please explain why this has become a function of the TSA, who decided this was a security issue, and how this affects the security of a flight.

Let's put an end to this question. Full disclosure from the TSA would be appreciated.

What next? Books we are carrying? Political affiliation? Sexual preference? The list could go on, as we all know anything outside the norm could signal sinister intent. Just like concealing a completely legal and harmless item, triggers a search. If it is legal and harmless what difference does it make if I conceal it or have it out in the open?

Submitted by Jim Huggins on

James writes:

Strapping machines are not the answer to the hole in security you speak of. They can secure baggage sure but if someone wanted to steal from your bag or put something in it they will not serve the purpose you want. A strapping machine can strap a bag and you can take the strap off with just your hands. You don't even need a knife. So how does that secure your luggage? It doesn't. Problem not fixed so I would suggest something else.

Ahh, but it does help more than you think it does.

Right now, one of the problems with luggage is not only that theft can happen, but that there is no accountability. TSA can say "someone with the airlines must've stolen your item". The airlines can turn around and say "someone with TSA must've stolen your item". And we've
seen articles posted here with examples of both kinds of thefts.

Suppose that TSA straps your luggage after inspection and hands it to an airline employee. Suppose you open your luggage and discover than an item was stolen. If the luggage strap was intact, it's highly likely that the theft occurred while TSA had the bag. If the luggage strap was not intact, it's highly likely that the theft occurred while the airline had the bag.

Now, you can go to the agency responsible for permitting the theft and pursue your claim, without them trying to pass the buck. This gives both the TSA and the airlines positive incentive to police their own workforce to make sure that thefts don't happen in the first place.

Submitted by Anonymous on

Anonymous said...
Strapping machines are not the answer to the hole in security...Problem not fixed so I would suggest something else.

The solution is to have as an option.
The traveler, if they desire, should be allowed to stand and watch the TSA open and go through their belongings. After the inspection the traveler would be allowed to place a lock of their choice on their luggage.

Submitted by Anonymous on

Anonymous said...
Probably out harassing some poor soul in a wheel chair.
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Your right, poor souls. Because a terrorist can not sit down in a wheel chair and pretend like they are handycap and in pain. Right!
Or a person with bad intentions can not hide a dangerous item on their elderly parent or handycap child. People do these things you know.
If they are sick enough to hurt other people, it usually does not matter if it is someone that they know or don't know.
There is no harrassment going on at the checkpoints. None! There are sick people out there. You can not look at someone and tell if they are worthy of hurting another human being.
There is no profiling of young or old, of handycap or not.
Everyone can leave the word harrassment out of their statements because you obviously have no idea what the goal of security is.

December 12, 2008 2:11 PM

An other example of the TSA's finest!!

Submitted by HappyToHelp on
Anonymous said...
Are you a spokesperson for TSA?

No but if you want official answers you need to use propper channels.

contact info!

Anonymous said...
Don't you think ALL the rules and regulations that we may encounter at the checkpoint SHOULD be provided to the public. I didn't know that in America we had secret laws.

There are no secret laws. No secret regulations.

laws

regulations

TSA security is situational and is a case-by-case basis.

Anonymous said...
So is it required that travelers with more than $10,000 in cash who are traveling in-country be reported?

Aww I see the confusion now. I'm in your debt. The word reported is the issue.

Heres my question: Reported to who?

Here is the example of my confusion. You send your bag through the xray. It contains a shampoo bottle that is over 3.4oz. The xray operator "reports" his/her findings to another TSO who performs a bag check.
Your shampoo was reported.

What does reported mean to you?

Anonymous said...
Are we to take from your rephrasing of the question and your response to yourself, that the TSA has the authority to "report" people who are not doing anything illegal?

Read the above example. You are "reported" every time you are found to have a liquid that exceeds the 311 rule.

Anonymous said...
There is no restraint other than proper disclosure for carrying these large amounts in to or out of the country and once again is of no concern to TSA.

Your right. There is no restraint. If TSA personel believe a law has been broken why would that not be of any TSA's concern? and more specificly a federal law(The Bank Secrecy Act). TSA is not law enforcement. You will never be arrested by a TSO. What is the concern here? Everybody has the right to report to law enforcement when they believe the law has been broken. Why should TSA not have this right? What good would they be if they couldn't?

Glad to see this discussion moving foward.
Submitted by Anonymous on

What recourse does a citizen have if a TSO and that TSO's supervisor decide not to let a pie through screening?

Um well I'm sure if it gets to a supervisory level and they cannot clear the item then it should not go. If they can't clear it I believe that is a good enough reason to not let something go through security. People should be mindful of that even if it really is just a pie.

December 12, 2008 12:34 PM

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So you think a person has no need, right or ability to question a decision that they think may be in error. Is that right? No recourse other than to not fly or to have their property confiscated.

Sorry, I disagree.

Another reason TSA must be terminated!

Submitted by Anonymous on

Sandra said...
Can you please get this blog fixed so that "magic words" don't have to be entered twice in order to submit a comment?

December 11, 2008 6:27 PM

Why would you expect TSA to fix this little problem when they cannot (will not) fix any number of problems inside TSA?

Heck, they won't even talk back to the participants here on the blog.

Submitted by Flying_Medic-CC... on

I to want to know if this is going to reduce the theft from baggage, as i have had more things stolen many times over since 9/11 then 20 years of traveling prior to 9/11, and everytime there was a TSA flyer in the bag.


to the Anonymous December 12, 2008 2:11 PM

pure Bravo Sierra, harrassment happens every day of the week by TSA. If you believe other wise you need a pysch eval at your local MH and quick.

I spend more time in the airport then i really care to. I have witnessed harassment first hand and been harassed personally when traveling and when coming to the airport to pick up a patient or organs. Its not a imagined threat its very real and has been very uncivil on TSAs end more times then not(DYWTFT, and other veiled Terroristic threats). To the point a flight nurse i work with (5' nothing 100 lb redhead) went off on a 3-striper for practically practicing medicine without a license and interfering with a critical patients care.

if you believe that baloney about elderly terrorists you seriously need help. Are you a TSA agent? Because honestly you sound like one that has drank way to much kool-aid. quit looking for the 1 in centillion (10 w/ 600 zeros behind it) probablity because it just isnt going to happen, and makes you look foolish. TSA cant accomplish its original chartered goals of keeping knives, guns, and incendiaries off aircraft (but yet a TSA agent can willfully carry a gun through a CP but not get charged or fired aka alvin crabtree) but yet still creeps its mission into areas it has no clue about on a knee jerk reaction. Once you get the basics down then you can expand but not till you have proven you have improved security.

This non-sense of SSI about SOP, is hogwash you cant have secert rules that have to be followed or face penalty. Till the rules are clearly laid out your gonna meet lots of resistance (dont give me the website or postings on this site because there contradictory and wrong (3-1-1 vs 100ml and so on).

communication is a two way street and the way it sounds now its one way as TSA isnt listen to critcizms and getting defensive when they get made look bad by posters or the press. If anyone from TSA HQ wants to meet with me fine (or other medical personel, artists), scubadivers), but meet me on even neutral ground with a open mind, then you might get somewhere.

also instead of identifying yourself you decided to hide behind the Anonymous tag. so why dont you identify yourself.

Rob

Submitted by Anonymous on
I have not visited for a few months.....it is as if I never left. The same knuckleheads are still asking the same questions.

That's because the folks at DHS/TSA haven't seen fit to answer a one of them. Come back in couple years. Things might have changed by then.
Submitted by Anonymous on

As always, I would like simple, straight, san weasel-word answers from the TSA. We all would.

For the purpose of the following questions, please assume the phrase 'traveling domestically' can be replaced with 'traveling between two or more destinations contained with the borders of the States, Territories, Possessions, or Administrative Districts of the United States of America.'

Is it illegal for a person traveling domestically via surface transportation to carry more than $10,000 of negotiable items on their person? Please cite referenced CFRs in your answer.

Is it illegal for a person traveling domestically via private aircraft to carry more than $10,000 of negotiable items on their person? Please cite referenced CFRs in your answer.

Is it illegal for a person traveling domestically via the public air transportation network (airlines, etc) to carry more than $10,000 of negotiable items on their person? Please cite referenced CFRs in your answer.

Is it illegal for a person traveling domestically via public air transport to carry more than $10,000 of negotiable items on their person through a TSA checkpoint? Please cite referenced CFRs in your answer.


Thank you.

Submitted by Anonymous on

"Over and over again on this blog there is information on liquids and gels. They pose a threat so get off that subject."

No, they don't. TSA has proven unable to point to a single piece of independent, peer-reviewed research that supports its insane liquid policies. And I as a patriot will not stop questioning TSA for pointless, abusive practices that do nothing to protect, and much to harm, flight security.

"If every item like that were to be screen then the checkpoint would go very slow and no one would be flying. I doubt the public wants that."

Checkpoints ARE slow, no one IS flying, and the public hates TSA.

Submitted by HSVTSO Dean on
Anonymous wrote:
Didn't you just divulge SSI?
What else is in this secret SOP?

No, he didn't divulge SSI. And the SOP contains, as its name implies, the standard operating procedures for which TSA operates.

Anonymous also wrote:
Who writes this SOP?
Who approves these procedures?

Been trying to figure that one out for a while now. For my part, I've decided that the SOP itself is (or, at least, was) made by people who have never step foot onto a screening floor :D
Submitted by Anonymous on

"Because we say so" might be an answer that TSA enforcers and minions like, but it isn't an acceptable answer to citizens over the age of 5.

Ask the questions until you get answers.

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