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Tuesday, May 19, 2009
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This question keeps popping up on our blog as well as other forums around the internet. Will children be screened by Whole Body Imagers (WBI)?

Yes and no.

Anybody can opt out of WBI screening. Adults, children, Klingons, etc… If you opt out of WBI screening, you will receive a patdown search in lieu of the WBI screening.

Children are allowed to be screened by the WBI if they’re able to stand motionless with their arms outstretched and feet shoulder width apart for 5 seconds. (If your child is like my 4 year old, they can’t stand still for a single second unless they’re watching that yellow sponge guy who shares my name)

Things to remember:

- Children do not have to be screened by the WBI. (Anybody can opt out)
- Parents carrying infants or children will not be screened by the WBI.
- Parents accompanying children may opt out of WBI screening to prevent separation of family.
- WBI screening is still in the pilot phase and has not been deployed at all checkpoints.
- Did I mention you can opt out?


Bob

EoS Blog Team

Comments

Submitted by Anonymous on

Why is TSA failing to inform citizens at airports that the virtual strip search is optional?

Why does TSA refuse to share images of TSA employees being virtually strip searched at the same size and resolution the machine's operator sees?

Why is the signage regarding the virtual strip search machines so small and out-of-the-way at checkpoints where it is being deployed?

Submitted by Anonymous on

Why do you want to take naked pictures of travelers?

Why do you want to take naked pictures of children?

Submitted by Anonymous on

Why should we trust anything you say about this technology, given how you lie to us about shoes and liquids?

Submitted by Anonymous on

What steps does TSA take to ensure travelers know that they can opt out of being strip searched? Is each person told, individually, what the machine does and that it is optional?

Submitted by NoClu on

Thank you. I hope that the wider TSA team will also follow these standards of practice.

I also think that this program should go away entirely.

Submitted by Txrus on

Better question is what steps is the TSA taking to ensure the screeners AT the checkpoints know this is 'optional'? Do they even know what 'optional' means? It does NOT mean the screener then gets to yell, 'Do you want to fly today?' if the passenger declines.

You see Bob, we've got Lynn saying putting shoes directly on the belt is 'optional' yet we then have screeners yelling at us nationwide that shoes CANNOT be in the bins & even taking shoes out of the bins themselves.

Maybe the real question is whether you, Lynn, et al really understand what 'optional' means? Because it doesn't mean squat as long as the screeners on the front line think differently.

Submitted by Anonymous on

TSA needs to ensure professionalism with the use of WBI's. Personally, if it makes getting through the security checkpoints quicker and I don't have to remove my shoes and jacket, I'm all for it!

TSA - why don't you standardize a family line? The likelihood of someone being a terrorist is minimized if you do selective screening. I know the ACLU types will object (that's their job) but 'comon...an 80yr old grandma traveling with her grand kids and family members are not a threat. Why not just have them walk through one level of security check (metal detector) while keeping their shoes and jackets on. This will really speed things up.

Why don't the TSA offer a frequent flier / pre-screen option to whisk through security checkpoints? I don't mind giving you my name, SSN, address, phone number, blood type, etc BEFORE my trip so that you can pre-screen me. When I show up to travel, just have a line for those who have already been pre-screened and subject me to a level one security check.

Submitted by Jim Huggins on

Bob ... one question:

WBI screening is still in the pilot phase and has not been deployed at all checkpoints.I can read this a couple of different ways. Has a decision been made as to whether or not WBI screening will, eventually, be deployed at all checkpoints? (And, if so, what is it?)

Calling this a "pilot" is a little ambiguous. It could be that TSA is still trying to decide whether or not to deploy WBI at all checkpoints, or TSA is trying to decide how to deploy WBI. Can you provide any insight?

Submitted by Bob on

Jim, WBI will not be deployed at all checkpoints.

The pilot is helping us determine things such as public acceptance, throughput, etc.

Bob

EoS Blog Team

Submitted by Sandra on

+1 to all those who asked why the TSA is not fully disclosing to passengers what this machine does and that its use is optional. Could it possibly be because you don't want them to know so that you can report that 99% of travelers will "choose" the virtual strip search over a pat down?

As you know from F/T, the travelers who have approached others who have gone through the MMW (or WBI as it has apparently been renamed) and explained to them what just happened, have found that those travelers were very upset at what was done without their knowledge.Your "signage" does not count as full disclosure.


To me, four-year olds are not the issue here, but pubescent girls are. So is anyone who is wearing an ostomy bag, a sanitary napkin or an adult diaper. Are you going to make everyone wearing one of those item remove them for inspection? A heck of a lot can be packed away in the crotch of an adult diaper.

As well, grossly obese people with rolls of fat can easily hide something that can't be seen by this machine. Are you going to make them pick up their fat rolls so you can take a look around?

Further as a poster in the "bare it all" thread wrote:

"what's to stop any terrorist from just choosing another checkpoint at the airport he/she might be transiting through, a checkpoint that does not demand either a strip search or a pat down?"

Lastly, why did it take you so long to answer this question?

Submitted by Irish on

Bob said...

"Jim, WBI will not be deployed at all checkpoints.

The pilot is helping us determine things such as public acceptance, throughput, etc."

Let's see ....

Introduce it as an option to the patdown for secondary.

Then make it an "optional" primary.

Then just guide the passengers to it without mention of options.

Then change the primary to magnetometer PLUS patdown.

Don't educate the public - keep the "samples" as small and difficult to see as possible.

If the public finds out, spin what the screeners actually see.

Then, get an "unbiased" sampling of public opinion.

Well, I'm impressed.

Irish

Submitted by Anonymous on

Bob

You think you would have learned from the backscatter machines and the uproar it brought, but it doesn't seem that TSA listens to anyone.


Considering TSAs track record you dont listen unless theres egg on your face. Even with that considering the number of issues and incidents by your own staff that havent been dealt with (alivin crabtree, the screener in florida,etc).


Then lets not even get into the skirting of the implied consent rules and 4th amendment

Submitted by Dave Nelson on

Bob,

Why did you edit my post into something taken completely out of context?

That is unprofessional and unethical. You, as a public affairs professional, ought to know that.

Submitted by Anonymous on

I'm happy to hear that adults can opt out (and that parents can opt their children out). Thank you for making that clear on this blog.

Do you also make this fact clear to those about to be screened? Do you verbally tell people, and is it before or only if/after they ask?

Being upfront about the fact that people have a choice will actually benefit TSA-- increased passenger confidence, comfort, and a positive perception of what is going on.

Submitted by Bob on

Dave, I know not of what you speak... Please explain.

Bob

EoS Blog Team

Submitted by Adrian on

If anyone can opt out, then why did the CNN story say "When given a choice" 99% of the people opt for the new technology? That seems to suggest that some people are not given a choice.

Also, in six of the pilots, the WBI is used as the primary screening device rather than being used as an alternative to a pat-down in a secondary screening. This creates the impression that people don't have a choice. And, from experiences of family and friends in Vegas, they certainly aren't notified that they have a choice (or that the device does something other than the old metal detector that used to be used).

Submitted by KBCraig on

"If you opt out of WBI screening, you will receive a patdown search in lieu of the WBI screening."

Translation: if I decline to let you take naked pictures of my daughter, you're going to grope my daughter.

Wow, thanks for the "choice".

Submitted by Anonymous on

How is being felt up an 'option' to strip-searches?

Submitted by Anonymous on

Andrea McCauley, a TSA spokesperson, told NBC News today that shoes must go on directly on the belt and not on a bin.

Lynn, an official TSA blogger on this site, says the opposite--it's optional.

So, Bob, when you smugly snark, "Have I mentioned it's optional," I have to ask you to keep your smug snarkiness to yourself.

You act like TSA is capable and well-managed enough to get the word out to all the pilot airport checkpoints that this is OPTIONAL. By this time tomorrow night, I am sure a PAX will write in to this very blog to say it was NOT optional at their airport. Just make sure you post that PAX testimonial and respond to it when it comes in.

Submitted by Isaac_Newton on

Bob, if TSA can afford $170,000 for these machines, they can afford some poster paper. Print the MMW images life-size and put them on the outside of the machine so people can see what they're lining up for. If it really is as accepted as you keep claiming, then such a poster shouldn't affect anything. If, however, as others have claimed, it's being "accepted" because passengers don't know any better, this will more accurately assess public opinion.

I really think you should do this NOW before investing more money in these machines.

Submitted by Ayn R Key on

I'm tempted.

I'm tempted to buy the cheapest ticket on Expedia that I can find simply to go through screening with my kid.

That way, as soon as screening is finished I can call 911 and report a producer of child pornography and have the entire TSA branch at the nearest airport arrested at once.

I wonder if I should...

Submitted by RB on

Bob, at least you didn't try to claim that the MMW WBI is not a Strip Search.

Will TSO's and all airport workers be screened with the MMW WBI?

If not why not?

When will TSA secure
checked baggage?

When will TSA inspect all cargo placed on passenger aircraft as mandated by Congress?

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For the person who said the following: "Anonymous said...
TSA needs to ensure professionalism with the use of WBI's. Personally, if it makes getting through the security checkpoints quicker and I don't have to remove my shoes and jacket, I'm all for it!"

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I see that Bob and Krewe has not responded to this but you still have to remove your shoes, even with the Strip Search.

The new policy is a Strip Search or Body Grope, your choice!!

Submitted by Bob on

Ayn,

Really? No smiley faces or sarc tags??? It would be kind of hard to report somebody for something you allowed, don't you think? You are the child's legal guardian. You can opt your child out of WBI screening.

Bob

EoS Blog Team

Submitted by Anonymous on

Bob said...
Ayn,

Really? No smiley faces or sarc tags??? It would be kind of hard to report somebody for something you allowed, don't you think? You are the child's legal guardian. You can opt your child out of WBI screening.

Bob

Thats what im talking about BOB!!! I think some of these clueless folks need a dose of their own 3.4 oz serving sized medicine :). Maybe if you did that Anarchy the police might take YOU in for some questioning. lol.

ps. good post btw bob. not much wiggle room for most of these guys.

Submitted by Anonymous on

Isn't this ironic, after numerous previous posts we've read of TSOs eager to call a LEO over if they catch kiddy porn in a carryon bag???

Submitted by Anonymous on

"It would be kind of hard to report somebody for something you allowed, don't you think? You are the child's legal guardian. You can opt your child out of WBI screening."

Bob, what steps does TSA take to ensure that every passenger knows that he or she can opt out of being virtually strip-searched?

Submitted by Anonymous on

Why does TSA refuse to post images of virtual strip-search scans at the same size and resolution operators of the virtual strip-search scanners see at checkpoints or online?

Submitted by Dave Nelson on

Bob said...
Dave, I know not of what you speak... Please explain.

Bob

EoS Blog Team

May 19, 2009 7:45 PM

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Bob,

Since you asked in public, I'll respond in public. I posted a reply to Nico in the nail clipper topic and reminded him that many of us here on this blog had challenged Nico to post full-size images of himself and his family as seen by the strip search machine operator. I also reminded him that we had made the same challenge to Kip Hawley.

I posted this in advance of this new post about strip searching children. You didn't see fit to post my request on the nail clipper thread. When I made the same request of Nico on this thread, you edited out, among other things:

1. My challenge for him to post pictures of his entire family:
2. A reminder that he had been challenged before to do this, as was Kip Hawley, and neither responded;
3. A comment that he, as a TSA public affairs officer, should set the example for public acceptance of the strip search machine, if the TSA even cares about this in the first place, by posting these pictures as they are viewed by the operator.

Now, there is one other curious thing going on. You removed my original post that you edited. The only post I have listed is the one from May 19 at 7:17 PM. Not only did you edit my original post that I called you out on, you now have destroyed the evidence by removing my original post.

OK -- come clean with the truth.

FYI, I've sent a copy of this post in its entirety to a couple of friends who post on Flyertalk.com, so, I suggest it's in your best interests, and in the best interests of your agency, to respond here.

Submitted by Dave Nelson on

Update to the edited post issue: Bob posted the the reply I sent to Nico on the nail clipper thread in another thread. It was posted -- and edited -- on the mail strip search thread in which you wee spinning the CNN story. Here is my edited post (bolded) that I described in my other post on this thread:

Dave Nelson said...
Anonymous on May 18, 2009, at 3:14 pm said:

TSA isn't "strip searching" anyone. Look at the images on cnn.com...do you seriously think they are revealing? If you get your jollies from those images, you've got bigger problems than TSA!

As I said to Nico, if you have nothing to hide, and, if you believe the images are not "revealing", please post your image as the operator sees it. What are you afraid of?

May 18, 2009 3:38 PMPS: As the author of both of these posts, I give you permission to combine them in a single post, provided you do not edit the text in either of them.

Submitted by Sandra on

Bob wrote:

"Jim, WBI will not be deployed at all checkpoints. "

However, on April 19th, just a bit more than one month ago, this was in Joe Sharkey's column in the NY Times:

"Initially, the machines were supposed to be used only on passengers who set off the metal detectors, to provide them with an alternative to the customary secondary physical pat-downs and inspections by electronic wand.

But Robin Kane, the agency's acting chief technology officer, said the initial results from tests at some checkpoints at 19 airports in the United States had been so good that the idea of using the machines as the standard checkpoint detectors made sense. Those results included, he said, positive feedback from passengers.

The plan now is that all passengers will "go through the whole-body imager instead of the walk-through metal detector," he said."So which is it, Bob?

One thing it is is more evidence of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing at the TSA as well as more evidence that the public absolutely cannot trust anything that the TSA says.

Submitted by Irish on

Blogger Bob blogged:

"- Did I mention you can opt out?"


Unfortunately, Bob, the same courtesy is not extended by your luggage/people screeners. Have you any concept of the magnitude of the disconnect between the front office and the front line?

But here's the key question: do you honestly believe it's appropriate for children to even be offered this option?

Irish

Submitted by Winstonsmith on

Remember folks, that when you are in the airport line waiting to have TSA violate your rights that you have the power of speech.

Since the TSA is going to lie to you about what the machine is, does, and can do (if you really think that TSA is going to provide full disclosure of what it can and does see and that you can opt out in the airports you are truly naive), when you see one of those machines, you can talk to the people around you and tell them what it is and what it does and that they have the option to say no. Or you can talk to the person you're with in a voice that can be heard by others. They'll listen. They may not say anything, but they'll hear. They may still go through with it, but you'll have planted a seed and perhaps they'll either think twice about flying the next time or be prepared to say no the next time.

I'm not suggesting you try to start a riot or anything, and if confronted by one of the super efficient TSA minions/dullards who does not like what you have to say you can simply get that person's name and badge number along with the date, time, airport, and checkpoint where the incident occurred.

If we can get enough people to do this and document it we can build a genuine case that TSA is engaging in wholesale suppression of first amendment rights, trampling on 4th amendment rights, and taking a giant stink-filled dump on the 6th and 14th amendments.

TSA for some reason holds itself above the law. It's time for the people to hold TSA accountable to the law.

Submitted by RB on

I'm a little confused.

You say that the MMW WBI is in a test phase yet it seems to be deployed as a primary means of screening at the locations it is being tested.

So if this Strip Search machine is only being tested why I am required to be Groped if I prefer not to be Strip Search?

This must mean that the WTMD is no longer the primary means of screening and saying that the Strip Search Machine is only being tested is less than honest.

Why is it that TSA cannot be up front and honest about what it is doing?

How can TSA justify Strip Searching children?

Submitted by Ayn R Key on

Yes, really Bob. No smiley faces or sarcastic tags. Just relying on the fine print on your signs in the airport that say in very fine print that I can opt my kid out, and relying on not seeing the fine print.

Or relying on telling someone they should accuse the TSOs of child pornography but not telling them that they can opt out because non-readers of this blog don't often see the very fine print on your under-sized signs.

Tell your people to get ready to possibly face criminal charges.

Submitted by RB on

Bob said...
Ayn,

Really? No smiley faces or sarc tags??? It would be kind of hard to report somebody for something you allowed, don't you think? You are the child's legal guardian. You can opt your child out of WBI screening.

Bob

EoS Blog Team

May 19, 2009 11:32 PM

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If the public was fully aware on exactly what these machines did, saw accurate images of what the TSA is seeing then acceptance would go down dramatically for adults and I doubt few parents would allow their children to be
Strip Search by TSA.

The Groping is even more disgusting!

Why is TSA afraid of providing truthful information about this new invasive Strip Search Machine?

Submitted by Not Full Res? on

if gential areas are "blurred" how are screeners able to discern if a weapon is placed in that area?

Submitted by Anonymous on

Bob said...

Ayn,

Really? No smiley faces or sarc tags??? It would be kind of hard to report somebody for something you allowed, don't you think? You are the child's legal guardian. You can opt your child out of WBI screening.


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It would be easy if some fellow trsveller on the other side of the checkpoint showed Ayn slide two images from the CNN article and pointed out that TSA's tiny eunuch signs are misleading.

Remember: Your option is "You have a choice to receive a pat down as an alternative"

Submitted by Anonymous on

That way, as soon as screening is finished I can call 911 and report a producer of child pornography and have the entire TSA branch at the nearest airport arrested at once.
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Yeah, good luck with that! How do you expect to be taken seriously by TSA or anyone else when you all sound like complete melodramatic nuts?

Submitted by Mr Gel-pack on

Bob@ "Anybody can opt out of WBI screening. Adults, children, Klingons, etc… If you opt out of WBI screening, you will receive a patdown search in lieu of the WBI screening."

Hey Bob, in the diabetes 101 thread, you said "No. You can opt out for WTMD screening and when necessary you may get a pat-down." and later, you and H2H both implied the pat-down wasn't mandatory.

Is our only "option" for our children to get whole-body-imaged or whole-body-patted-down?

Submitted by George on

@Bob: "The pilot is helping us determine things such as public acceptance, throughput, etc."

How will you assess public acceptance? You have already apparently concluded that "99%" of us accept it. Is that based on the number of people who have specifically requested complaint forms or sent a "got feedback"? Are the people you claim to have expressed approval fully informed about what the scanners actually do? And does public acceptance really matter to an agency whose officers are so eager to wield the "Do you want to fly today?" bludgeon?

That's the real problem with the way you're spinning the scanners as "friendly" and promising to (somehow) respect and protect our privacy, while carefully preventing the public from seeing the fully-detailed images the screeners use. Based on the evasion and incomplete disclosure, I can only conclude that the TSA's management are fully aware that scanners are far more intrusive than they're willing to admit, to the point where few people would accept it if they knew the full story. So they assume that their usual practice of secrecy combined with evasive, deceptive spin will keep the ignorant public from getting justifiably outraged at the new level of intrusiveness.

That statement reflects cynicism and distrust, but is there any reason to not be cynical and distrustful given the TSA's track record? I can only hope that enough people recognize that the TSA now seeks to strip search all passengers (with the alternative "option" of being groped by a TSO), and let their elected officials know they refuse to accept it.

That said, perhaps we might be willing to accept it in the future, if and when the TSA is reformed into an agency that the public can trust to respect our rights and our privacy. As I've said before, I don't have a problem with MMW scanning itself. I actually believe that when used properly it offers a genuinely useful improvement to security screening, far more than any measure the TSA has deployed since it replaced the private minimum-wage screeners. But I greatly object to putting such an intrusive form of screening in the hands of an inept and arrogant agency that consistently demonstrates only contempt for the rights and privacy of the public.

Submitted by Bob on

OK, Dave…here goes…

False accusations are a pretty low blow, but I’m going to post your comment so I can explain a few things.

I don’t edit any comments from readers. I don’t even have the capability to do that with Blogger. I can reject, or publish. I can delete a comment after it has been published, but I have not done so. So I’m not sure where you’re coming from with the editing accusations.

I reject any request that asks for us to post WBI images of us or our family. Yes, I have posted them in the past, but they have become so repetitive it’s ridiculous. It’s also disrespectful to bring our families into these conversations.

TSA has gone to great lengths to respect the privacy that the flying public deserves. We have made sure that WBI images aren’t able to be saved. We have made sure the faces are blurred. We strictly forbid any cell phones or cameras in the room where the officer monitors the images. There is no chance of anybody matching you to an image from the WBI. The image is automatically deleted.

After all of the precautions to protect privacy, many are still vehemently opposed to this type of screening. I can understand and respect that.

What I can’t respect and won’t tolerate are the repeated requests to post WBI images of our children.

Why do I have a problem with sharing images of my family and no problem with passengers going through the WBI?

Unlike unidentifiable images of passengers which are deleted automatically and sent to digital heaven, you are asking us to post a permanent identifiable image on the internet of our children. If you don’t see the difference, then we’re going to have to agree to disagree and leave it at that.

As far as sending your post to FlyerTalk, I’m not sure if that is supposed to have concerned me or make you look silly. I’ll stick with the latter.

Bob

EoS Blog Team

Submitted by RB on

Just reviewed the TSA information "Traveleing with Children" and Traveling with Children with Disabilities.

No where in that compilation of information does it state that TSA will use a MMW WBI to Strip Search our children. Nor does it state that if we elect to not have our children Strip Searched by this machine that they will be "FELT UP" by a TSA screener.

TSA, a disgusting agency pushing the envelope.

Submitted by RB on

Unlike unidentifiable images of passengers which are deleted automatically and sent to digital heaven, you are asking us to post a permanent identifiable image on the internet of our children. If you don’t see the difference, then we’re going to have to agree to disagree and leave it at that.

As far as sending your post to FlyerTalk, I’m not sure if that is supposed to have concerned me or make you look silly. I’ll stick with the latter.

Bob

EoS Blog Team

May 20, 2009 1:06 PM

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If these images are filtered for privacy then I see no reason to not post Nico's (I'll leave his kids out of it)image.

He is the one said they are ok for school children to view. Either the images are viewable by young children without concern or they are not.

TSA refuses to come clean on this matter.

If the images are as detailed as the frontal images on the CNN article and TSA images children then I hope you are all charged with a crime.

Submitted by RB on

Bob said...
OK, Dave…here goes…

I reject any request that asks for us to post WBI images of us or our family. Yes, I have posted them in the past, but they have become so repetitive it’s ridiculous. It’s also disrespectful to bring our families into these conversations.
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Bob, just what part of the posting guidelines are you using to not accept these post?

Who put you in charge of violating the Constitutional protections?

Submitted by Anonymous on
Bob, what steps does TSA take to ensure that every passenger knows that he or she can opt out of being virtually strip-searched?As few steps as possible. The TSA is under pressure to make airport screening as efficient and easy as possible (for themselves, not for passengers). Patting down passengers takes a lot more time and effort than scanning them, so it's in the TSA's interest to encourage passengers to "choose" what's fastest and easiest for the TSOs.

So it probably is official policy that passengers have the right to opt out of the strip search and request a groping, just as Bob said. But for reasons of operational efficiency, nobody at the checkpoints is likely to make any effort to publicize this option. What does seem likely is that TSOs will be barking orders at the crowd: "EMPTY EVERYTHING FROM YOUR POCKETS! STAND PRECISELY ON THE MARKS IN THE SCANNER! RAISE YOUR ARMS, SPREAD YOUR LEGS, AND KEEP THEM SPREAD UNTIL WE TELL YOU!"

Just as with changing gloves for bag checks, passengers who know the secret and specifically ask to be groped rather than strip searched will be accommodated per the SOP. Those who don't know the secret will simply obey the bellowed orders and spread-eagle in the scanner for the strip search.

But realistically, how many people will actually ask for the groping? And will the TSOs who are inconvenienced with having to spend the extra time and effort intentionally make the groping extra unpleasant, just to encourage passengers to make the "right choice" the next time? Would that sort of retaliation violate TSA rules? And if it does, would the TSO get into any trouble for the violation?

Whatever the official rules say, like many other so-called options the TSA claims to offer us the "right to opt out" is really illusory in practice. It's a choice between having our naked body viewed by out-of-sight TSOs, or being groped by a TSO (who has every reason to make the experience as unpleasant as possible). It's not much of a choice.
Submitted by Anonymous on

"What I can’t respect and won’t tolerate are the repeated requests to post WBI images of our children."

In other words, you're afraid to let us see the images these strip-search chambers produce.

Submitted by Anonymous on

"It’s also disrespectful to bring our families into these conversations."

Why, Bob?

"TSA has gone to great lengths to respect the privacy that the flying public deserves. We have made sure that WBI images aren’t able to be saved. We have made sure the faces are blurred. We strictly forbid any cell phones or cameras in the room where the officer monitors the images. There is no chance of anybody matching you to an image from the WBI. The image is automatically deleted."

Bob, all of these precautions you claim TSA is taking -- and given your agency's pathetic record of lies and abuse and incompetence and stupidity, they are claims that can not be given any weight whatsoever -- only serve to demonstrate that these strip searches are a grotesque violation of citizens' privacy, security, and dignity, a complete waste of resources, and do nothing to protect anyone from anything worse than 0.6 ounces of harmless lotion.

So when you cry the poor, poor pitiful TSA card? No, Bob, we're not buying it.

Submitted by Anonymous on

When do you plan to address any of the questions posed about TSA's steps to ensure people know that they can decline to be strip-searched by these machines?

Submitted by Anonymous on

Anonymous said...
TSA needs to ensure professionalism with the use of WBI's. Personally, if it makes getting through the security checkpoints quicker and I don't have to remove my shoes and jacket, I'm all for it!

TSA - why don't you standardize a family line? The likelihood of someone being a terrorist is minimized if you do selective screening. I know the ACLU types will object (that's their job) but 'comon...an 80yr old grandma traveling with her grand kids and family members are not a threat. Why not just have them walk through one level of security check (metal detector) while keeping their shoes and jackets on. This will really speed things up.

Why don't the TSA offer a frequent flier / pre-screen option to whisk through security checkpoints? I don't mind giving you my name, SSN, address, phone number, blood type, etc BEFORE my trip so that you can pre-screen me. When I show up to travel, just have a line for those who have already been pre-screened and subject me to a level one security check.

May 19, 2009 6:08 PM
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This entire post is rediculous! Define grandma. So lets just say for fun, TSA starts to not screen grandma's. I think that some grandma's are in their 40's. Or if we started not screening at the age of 80, how would the people in their 70's feel? And what about grandpas?
What makes you think that once a person involved with an extremist group hits a certain age that they are no longer an extremist.
What if someone approaches this sweet looking old couple outside of the airport and says, I am going to kill you if you do not carry this through.
What if some nice man helps this elderly couple with their bags to the checkpoint and slides an IED or a gun into it when they are not looking.
So if TSA stops screening old people and children correctly then the terrorists are really going to know how to get things through.
And a pre-screen process, yeah right. Is it really that hard to stand in a line for 10 to 15 minutes? To put your things through the xray machine? To walk through and gather your things up? Really not that big of a deal! None of it.

Submitted by Tanya on

Since I have a pace maker and have to be patted down every time I fly I love this new technology. When I flew awhile back I was screened by one of these types of machines. It was far faster then the other form of screening and easier.

On another note, I have no problem with my grandchildren being “exposed” to this type of screening. I would rather them be safe on the plane then panic about the highly unlikely chance that someone might drool over some picture of the outline of their body.

Please keep up the good work advancing security technology into the 21st century!

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