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Friday, July 02, 2010
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I have long allowed off topic comments. However, after many complaints from folks who would understandably like to stay on the subject, I am providing this post as a place to comment things that are way off topic with the current post.

I’ve added a link to this post on our sidebar so people will know to post off topic comments here.

You now have the option of subscribing to posts, so you’ll be able to keep up with the comments here if you so choose. So it’s not as if your comment is being exiled to the land of forgotten comments. We’ll be paying attention, and you can stay up to date with an RSS feed.

As much as we’d like to hear about your synchronized swimming club, I ask that all comments posted here remain TSA focused and adhere to TSA’s comment policy.

Bob Burns
TSA Blog Team

Comments

Submitted by HappyToHelp on

Anonymous said…
“Tim said: "[saying] TSA is busy work is far from true, and is a failed illogical statement."
I see what you did there. Clever!
A failed illogical statement would would be a logical statement.
So you agree with the comment! :)”

Not what I ment, but your observation is classic. I was eating a quick dinner when I read this, and did some kind of weird laugh, burp, and hickup combination. My wife is now giving me crazy eye. :)

Thanks,

Tim
TSA Blog Team

Submitted by Ayn R Key on

West wrote:
The enhanced pat down, is not an assault of any kind. It is simply a method used to clear an individual for threat items. ... The enhanced pat down is simply the method used to clear those folks that opt out. It is not punitive, or used to coerce (unlike many have said here), it is simply used to prevent folks from carrying threat items on their person.

I know that you are required to say that. And if I ask you if you are required to say that, you are required to answer that you are not. So I won't bother with that question.

But I do wonder if you feel any pangs of conscience when you repeat the company line.

Submitted by GSOLTSO on

Ayn sez - "I know that you are required to say that. And if I ask you if you are required to say that, you are required to answer that you are not. So I won't bother with that question.

But I do wonder if you feel any pangs of conscience when you repeat the company line."

Ayn, I post my views, my opinions and (in many cases) simple facts about the TSA. I almost always (I am sure I have missed a few comments) preface my opinions with a phrase that indicates it is opinion (such as I think, I believe, or IMHO, etc). I do not repeat the company line unless I agree with it, or understand that there is some merit in the process they are posting on. I can simply refrain from commenting on subjects that I am uneducated on, or disagree with. I feel the same thing that I do when I post anywhere - that I am giving my opinion, or presenting facts that I have unearthed somewhere. I agree with you sometimes on subjects (not often, but it happens), but wew just don't see eye to eye on many of the major subjects that involve TSA.

West
TSA Blog Team

Submitted by GSOLTSO on

Anon sez - "That is why West's signature over at Flyertalk is so amusing.

"Fear profits a man nothing."

Now there is a man with a wicked sense of humor!"

I do have a rather broad sense of humor, and it can be rather wicked at times (I did grow up watching Monty Python, come on really?)(This parrot has ceased to be!). I just really love that line and try my best to keep it in mind while living my life. If you are ever in town, let me know and I have some pretty good jokes and stories that could have you rolling!

P.S. Tim said he has checked and his FSD has no tubes or nectar feeding assemblies connected to him. I am happy to report, that neither does my FSD.

West
TSA Blog Team

Submitted by GSOLTSO on

H2H sez - "My wife is now giving me crazy eye"

Are we sure that is because of the laugh, burp hickup thing? or is that a regular occurrence?

West
TSA Blog Team

Submitted by Anonymous on

I asked why sniffer dogs are not being used to detect explosive substances, instead of attempting to find explosives with the naked scanners.
Thanks for your reply Tim. I have asked many questions on here before and never had a reply. It makes a welcome change.
You state that we can read all about explosive detection canine teams on the TSA site. I have looked but can't find anything on this subject.

Submitted by Anonymous on

"I can simply refrain from commenting on subjects that I am uneducated on, or disagree with."

Given the enormous number of topics on which you've shown you are completely uneducated on, perhaps you should refrain from posting more frequently. (HOW many countries force every air passenger to remove their shoes again, West...?)

Submitted by HappyToHelp on

@ RB
No. Nigren does not come to mind. Nowhere has Nigren claimed AIT pictures are revealing or that he considers them inappropriate.

Bob has stated why the images with the exact resolution will not be posted. Avox commented on it in the ATR blog post. However, the current pictures are not altered. To the naked eye they look the same. Until one of you posted the resolution of the posted pictures, I thought they were the same. The public images are pretty close to the real deal and an informed decision can be made IMHO. Don’t believe me. You can see news footage from various sources that show the images of both AIT machines.

You want me to prove that AIT is child porn? Don’t be overly dramatic. Let parents make their own decision whether they want their children using AIT or not.

Tim
TSA Blog Team

Submitted by HappyToHelp on

@ Anonymous September 22, 2010 3:17 PM
I think you are unfamiliar with the blog posters positions that I am responding to. How should I respond to them when they want to disband TSA and through everyone one of us in jail? Some advocate violence. Why? They think TSA is the anti-constitution. While I respect their thoughts and opinions on security, their hyperbole does nothing to move the discussion further, and I am going to call them out on it.

You seam grounded though. Is there anything you want to discuss, or any ideas for future blog posts?

Tim
TSA Blog Team

Submitted by HappyToHelp on

@ GSOLTSO
I knew you were a government plant. I am deleting my hard drive as we s…. p….e…a..k
CONNECTION LOST

LOL. Okay I am back. Big brother did not get me.

Tim
TSA Blog Team

P.S. Broadcasting live from an underground bunker

Submitted by HappyToHelp on

@ Anonymous September 23, 2010 4:06 PM
If you don’t want to have West post here or not so often, you are in the wrong place. West does a very good job at answering questions, and discussing passenger, and non-passenger concerns. I wish he would post more often. I enjoy reading it.

Tim
TSA Blog Team

Submitted by Anonymous on

"Bob has stated why the images with the exact resolution will not be posted."

No, actually, he hasn't. Bob/Curtis has consistently refused to say why he hasn't posted accurate images, and, indeed, needed to be questioned for months before he admitted he's been posting inaccurate images as a matter of policy.

Submitted by Anonymous on

"You want me to prove that AIT is child porn?"

No.

Not me. Not anyone else. Nobody has asked for that.

Tim, who asked you to do that?

Please, I know you have a lot of things to do, but please tell us, who asked you to prove that AIT was child porn?

I know you are busy, but please don't brush this question off and just tell us to look back through the list. I do, I really do look back and try to understand why you make some of the statements you do before I ask a question like this.

Who asked you to prove AIT was child porn?

Submitted by RB on

You want me to prove that AIT is child porn? Don’t be overly dramatic. Let parents make their own decision whether they want their children using AIT or not.

Tim
TSA Blog Team

September 23, 2010 5:40 PM
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Tell me how a parent can may this decision when TSA refuses to provide the information needed to make an informed decision.

The real images from Strip Search Machines have not been posted so no one really knows what they reveal.

Negrin certainly gives substance to the argument that the images are very graphic.

Submitted by GSOLTSO on

RB sez - "Negrin certainly gives substance to the argument that the images are very graphic."


Actually Negrin gives substance to the argument that anger control is lacking in some situations. What generated the situation (not to defend him, simply to gie some levity) was allegedly being abused about the size of his genitalia on a repeated basis. What Negrin has stated was that he lost control of his anger after this situation.

A case can be made that decisions by management could have been better, or that Negrin could have pursued things further up his chain of command to remedy the situation better to his satisfaction.

Based on the information I have here at the blog, and commentary by Bob and others here, the images that several folks have posted links to are not the images that are seen by the AIT operators. There are some links (the ones to the news crews filming) that gives you an idea of what the images look like, and what they actually see. The stock imagery is pretty close to what they see (again based on my info from here and other sources).

From a personal perspective, posting the exact images as they are seen (along with any protocols that go with the screening process) could help someone with nefarious intent figure out how to circumvent the system, or try to figure out weaknesses.

West
TSA Blog Team

Submitted by Anonymous on

First we have Dubai and other Middle East countries refusing to implement naked scanners, now after a six month trial, Italy have DROPPED their naked scanner programme. The Italian Aviation Authority described the trial as disappointing and the scanners as slow and ineffective.
The slide and the baclkash has begun.

Submitted by HappyToHelp on

@ RB
Well first off we have signs at the airport. They provide information and a sample image. You can view our signs on our AIT webpage. Second, Bob blogs about AIT pretty frequently. It is a hot topic, and this is a very popular blog. TSA also reaches out to news organizations, and travel blogs. Do you remember seeing AIT on the Today show? TSA works hard to get the word out, of course it can work harder (crack the wip).

Tim
TSA Blog Team

Submitted by HappyToHelp on

@ Anonymous September 23, 2010 8:42 PM
Bob has. This information has been available since February 3, 2010 1:22 PM.

Bob said…
“I have requested the resolution and size and was told it was proprietary information that I could not release.”

Tim
TSA Blog Team

Submitted by RB on

Going through security at LAS today the xay operator was griping out load about peoples carry-on items yet not calling for any bag checks.

This behavior is totally unprofessional and really illustrates TSA to a T.

Good job LAS TSA crew!

Submitted by Ayn R Key on

I see Tim. So when you repeat the company line in spite of you knowing it is not true, you do not feel any pangs of conscience.

Submitted by Anonymous on

Anonymous @ September 23, 2010 8:42

Bob stated sometime back, many moons and maybe a couple of seasons ago, that higher powers will not allow the type of images many people are asking for to be released.

I remember reading Bob's original explanation in a response in some thread. Back in the good old days when he did that type of thing. :)

I've seen it copypastad or referenced in at least one more post. Pretty recently. Sorry I don't have a link or search string to offer.

This issue comes up over and over. I always wonder why the team bloggers here don't have a link to Bob's original comment. Or why they don't just tell the people asking the question that it's not going to happen and the reason why.

Submitted by RB on

HappyToHelp said...
@ RB
Well first off we have signs at the airport. They provide information and a sample image. You can view our signs on our AIT webpage. Second, Bob blogs about AIT pretty frequently. It is a hot topic, and this is a very popular blog. TSA also reaches out to news organizations, and travel blogs. Do you remember seeing AIT on the Today show? TSA works hard to get the word out, of course it can work harder (crack the wip).

Tim
TSA Blog Team

September 24, 2010 5:30 PM
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I am aware of the lies that TSA has provided to the media.

At no point has actual images been provided to the public so the public understands what they are being asked to accept.

That TSA Apologist Tim is wrong.

I cannot consent without full understanding of what I am giving consent to. Also I don't recall seeing any signage saying a TSA employee is going to grope my penis. Just where are those signs Tim?

Seems TSA should try being honest and truthful instead of using dishonesty at every turn.

I maintain that TSA and its employees have no honor or integrity and you are proving me correct Tim.

Submitted by RB on

GSOLTSO said...
RB sez - "Negrin certainly gives substance to the argument that the images are very graphic."


Actually Negrin gives substance to the argument that anger control is lacking in some situations. What generated the situation (not to defend him, simply to gie some levity) was allegedly being abused about the size of his genitalia on a repeated basis. What Negrin has stated was that he lost control of his anger after this situation.

A case can be made that decisions by management could have been better, or that Negrin could have pursued things further up his chain of command to remedy the situation better to his satisfaction.

Based on the information I have here at the blog, and commentary by Bob and others here, the images that several folks have posted links to are not the images that are seen by the AIT operators. There are some links (the ones to the news crews filming) that gives you an idea of what the images look like, and what they actually see. The stock imagery is pretty close to what they see (again based on my info from here and other sources).

From a personal perspective, posting the exact images as they are seen (along with any protocols that go with the screening process) could help someone with nefarious intent figure out how to circumvent the system, or try to figure out weaknesses.

West
TSA Blog Team

September 24, 2010 9:26 AM
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Just how did Negrins co-workers know to tease Negrin about the size of his penis if it wasn't for the excellent images from WBI?

Submitted by Anonymous on

rb said:
"Going through security at LAS today the xay operator was griping out load about peoples carry-on items yet not calling for any bag checks.

This behavior is totally unprofessional and really illustrates TSA to a T.

Good job LAS TSA crew!"
im sure that you would sing their praises if they did everything the way you wanted them to. you are always on here talking about the positives of tsa...

Submitted by RB on

Anonymous said...
rb said:
"Going through security at LAS today the xay operator was griping out load about peoples carry-on items yet not calling for any bag checks.

This behavior is totally unprofessional and really illustrates TSA to a T.

Good job LAS TSA crew!"
im sure that you would sing their praises if they did everything the way you wanted them to. you are always on here talking about the positives of tsa...

September 25, 2010 8:52 PM
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I would be happy to talk about the positives of TSA, problem being there are none!

I made a comment about a single TSA employee publicly ranting loudly about peoples bags without regard to how that ranting demonstrated a less than professional demeanor. What I spoke of was exactly what was happening. I also took time to mention that behavior to the checkpoint overseers.

I would suggest that TSA take stock of just why the public holds TSA and its employees in such low regard and do something about it.

That I would be happy to speak out about.

Submitted by George on

@RB: I would suggest that TSA take stock of just why the public holds TSA and its employees in such low regard and do something about it.

I am increasingly convinced that TSA management is fully aware of the regard in which the public holds the TSA and its employees. But for some unfathomable reason they've determined that being reviled, despised, and feared by the public is beneficial to National Security and/or their agency. Maybe they believe that if they harass and annoy innocent people enough to make many of them hate the TSA, the complaints will be a proxy metric proving conclusively that the "measures" make things even more difficult for terrorists.

Of course, that defies any logic. But much of what the TSA does defies any logic. We could assume that there actually is logic underlying the visible buffoonery, comprehensible only to the bosses at Headquarters who have access to the Tippy-Top-Secret "robust intelligence" to which Bob periodically alludes as justification for everything the TSA inflicts on us.

But that assumption is contrary to Occam's Razor (which the TSA surely would never allow us to bring aboard an airplane). That exquisite shaving instrument would suggest that what's behind the curtain is the very same inconsistent arbitrary arrogant ineptitude that's on display at checkpoints. Which, of course, is the main reason the public holds TSA and its employees in such low regard.

Submitted by Ayn R Key on

Tim wrote:
You want me to prove that AIT is child porn? Don’t be overly dramatic. Let parents make their own decision whether they want their children using AIT or not.

So you're ok with parents calling the police on the TSOs and having the TSOs arrested?

West wrote:
Actually Negrin gives substance to the argument that anger control is lacking in some situations. What generated the situation (not to defend him, simply to gie some levity) was allegedly being abused about the size of his genitalia on a repeated basis. What Negrin has stated was that he lost control of his anger after this situation.

So while he does provide substance to the claim that some people have anger issues, he doesn't provide substance to the claim of what specifically he had anger issues over? You're just getting silly now and you know it. He had to be angry over SOMETHING for him to have his outburst. Yes, he was angry that people abused him about the size of his genitalia ... how did they know the size of his genitalia? If the images are not graphic then they didn't know and couldn't abuse him. If they knew and could abuse him then the images are graphic.

I find your reasoning as specious as when someone is convicted of conspiracy to commit a crime while acquitted of the crime itself. There is a chain of event. He had anger control problems BECAUSE he was being abused about the size of his package BECAUSE

Fill in the blank. I dare you to fill in the words after the second "because".

Submitted by Anonymous on

>>You seam grounded though.

Aw, thanks. You just haven't gotten to know me. My book on how the Lindbergh baby was kidnapped by Rasputin to marry Anastasia and lead the New World Order after being schooled by Judge Crater, Amelia Earhart, the crew of Flight 19, Glenn Miller, Oscar Acosta, Michael Rockefeller, Ayn Rand and Ben Stein under the guidance of our new insect overlords and funded by the gold of the Aztecs hidden at the White Sands Missile range is almost finished. I am still untangling the role of the Project for the New American Century in all of this. I'll send you an autographed copy when it (or I) am released.

And Tim, I have to admit that I have a certain abstract perverse affection for someone who can in one post admonish people, "Don’t be overly dramatic." And then in another post ask; "What more do you want? Blood?"

Zinnnngggggg…

You and West exchange jokes much?

I could not work in the bureaucracy you serve, or any bureaucracy for that matter, but at a safe distance I can admire your chutzpah.

Thanks again for reaching out. I hope you don't feel I've bitten the hand you extended. I'll respond to your other kind inquiry later.

Submitted by Anonymous on

RB:
"That I would be happy to speak out about."
YES we finally got rb to be happy! well at least to admit to being happy about something. im sure that you went through the security area with no unhappy thoughts and were looking for only positive things to find. im sure if the tsa person didnt say "have a nice day" in the proper fashion that that would be reported as well. lets try looking at the bright side once in awhile, of course i have your answer already, there isnt one.

Submitted by Bubba on

Hey, how about addressing that article published in May in the leading scientific journal Nature saying there is no scientific basis for the very pricey SPOT program??

Or did you think I would forget about it?

Submitted by RB on

Anonymous said...
RB:
"That I would be happy to speak out about."
YES we finally got rb to be happy! well at least to admit to being happy about something. im sure that you went through the security area with no unhappy thoughts and were looking for only positive things to find. im sure if the tsa person didnt say "have a nice day" in the proper fashion that that would be reported as well. lets try looking at the bright side once in awhile, of course i have your answer already, there isnt one.

September 27, 2010 5:58 PM
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I approach each TSA checkpoint with no preconceived thoughts on what will happen, I let TSA surprise me with their ability to screw up every time with what should be a none event.

What TSA should be asking is just why they can't teach these people how to do a very simple job well.

Oh Anon, you might want to get a keyboard with this ' symbol on it.

Submitted by Anonymous on

Why has the PIA not been updated to reflect the fact the Naked Body Scanning has moved from the "pilot" phase to the "mass deployment" phase?

Submitted by Anonymous on

So after reading all of the horror stories I decided to encourage the lone TSA agent out of Hartford Ct that showed true humanity to my very upset daughter to keep up the good work, even surrounded by utter chaos he gave an great example of how it should be. I am only sorry I did not take his name.

Submitted by Anonymous on

Am I allowed to record TSA interrogations? The next time I am asked to supply a phone number to my place of work, my cell phone recorder will be on, but I want to make sure I am not violating any law. Not interested in TSA policy, but the law.

Submitted by Anonymous on

Can item be presented to tsa at an airport for an initial evaluation
to see if the item can be carried
on? This is not for screening purposes..it is for determing if an item can be carried on.

Submitted by Anonymous on

If the naked scanners are safe because the radiation does not penetrate inside the body, then why are bones clearly visible in the scans? Rapiscan images clearly show this, and these scanners are currently being used in airports. This is not classified information, it is publicly and widely available information.
If the scans see bones then the radiation is travelling deep inside the body.
How can the scanners be safe?

Submitted by Ponter on

"Can item be presented to tsa at an airport for an initial evaluation to see if the item can be carried on? This is not for screening purposes..it is for determing if an item can be carried on."


Obviously not. If you could do that, terrorists could do it too. And soon they'd know what is permitted and prohibited, so they'd be able to circumvent that vital layer of protection.

Keep in mind that what some people who hate the TSA see as inconsistency and incompetence is actually a carefully-coordinated Security Strategy of Unpredictability. If you don't know what you're allowed to carry on, the terrorists won't either! If you always have the risk a TSO prohibiting even item that the TSA website says is permitted, that means the terrorists also have the risk of their bombs being stopped at the checkpoint. That keeps us very safe.

Unpredictability and randomness are one of the most powerful tools the TSA has to keep us very safe from the horror of 9/11. There hasn't been a successful attack on aviation since the TSA was formed, attesting to the effectiveness of the TSA's powerful Security Strategy.

So rather than being angry about what looks like inconsistency, be grateful to the TSO who is doing his or her job of injecting necessary randomness into the screening process. Prohibiting your innocent item means that the TSA is highly effective at keeping dangerous items off airplanes. Everything the TSA does is meant to protect you from terrorists. They have a reason for what they do, and keeping that reason secret is what makes it effective.

Submitted by Anonymous on

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Am I allowed to record TSA interrogations? The next time I am asked to supply a phone number to my place of work, my cell phone recorder will be on, but I want to make sure I am not violating any law. Not interested in TSA policy, but the law.

September 30, 2010 12:30 PM
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I answered this question regarding audio only recordings at checkpoints with an email reply i got from TSA but it has been censored on this blog. not sure why they would email me a reply but not allow it to be posted. i assume it is more TSA inconsistency to keep the terrorists on their toes.

Submitted by Anonymous on

Ponter said...

If you don't know what you're allowed to carry on, the terrorists won't either! If you always have the risk a TSO prohibiting even item that the TSA website says is permitted, that means the terrorists also have the risk of their bombs being stopped at the checkpoint. That keeps us very safe.

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I would think that the terrorists bombs would not be permitted into the sterile area in any form.
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There hasn't been a successful attack on aviation since the TSA was formed,
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there also hasn't been a terrorist caught at a TSA dragnet since they were formed. Which attests to fact that terrorism is such a rare occurrence.

I hope the latest non-specific, overly broad, global terrorist warning doesn't have you barricaded in your house waiting for the sky to fall.

don't worry showing an image of your genitals to a complete stranger in an airport should save you from peril.

Submitted by HappyToHelp on

@ Ponter
Interesting post. While some things pertaining to the prohitted item list appear to be inconsistant or unprodectable, it really isn’t. When TSA refers to randomness and unprodicablity, they are talking about different procodures, methods, checkpoint technology, interactions with TSA partners, and selection process. Mostly, the selection process such as every fifth passenger, and so on. The best way to loose a permitted item is by failing your secondary screening. The most common one you hear about on this blog is people loosing LGA’s due to failing the liquid explosive test. This would be procedural, and not random. Same goes for suspicious behavior. A example of random screening would be the ETD testing of passengers hands that we blogged about a while ago. It would be hard to predict, and is done randomly on a radom basses, or selective bases. While the random screening program is robust and important, it does not apply to the prohibbited items list.

On a side note, I would say the most powerful tool TSA has is TSA’s Office of Intelligence. Just my two cents.

Tim
TSA Blog Team

Submitted by Anonymous on

It is interesting that the total number of posts on the TSA blog has reduced recently to just the odd one or two. People have just given up trying to get answers from the TSA. Many will simply also just give up flying as the TSA takes on more and more unaccountable and unconstitutional powers in its ever increasing thirst to strip everyone of their civil liberties and freedoms.

Submitted by Anonymous on

Am I allowed to record TSA interrogations? The next time I am asked to supply a phone number to my place of work, my cell phone recorder will be on, but I want to make sure I am not violating any law. Not interested in TSA policy, but the law.
___________________________________

This post does not make sense to me. When you are asked for you number to your place of work?

Submitted by Random Tso on

TSA will never satisfy the flying public is what the consensus is. No matter what is done, people will find a reason to complain. Prime example: Arrive at a security checkpoint, there's a TSO VERBALLY giving instructions on how to proceed through the checkpoint. Officer says a million times "please empty your pockets of EVERYTHING." The passenger gets scanned and the person viewing the image sees an unidentified anamoly in the passenger's pocket. TSO asks passenger to remove that item, then the passenger gets upset. Did you not just hear the officer repeat the same line 5 times?

As with EVERY agency you will get the bad seeds that's why blogs/forums like this ARE in important.

The famous line from every passenger is "Do I look like a terrorist?" Truth is a terrorist could be anyone.

TSA is NOT there to inconvenience anyone, TSO's want to get the passengers through the checkpoint as quick as possible as well, but security is always top priority.

Before your travels, I suggest that you read tsa guidelines before arriving at the airport. Also arrive with plenty of time before your flight and just listen to the instuctions the officers are giving. It would make your traveling experience a lot easier and less fustrating.


I DO NOT speak on behalf of the agency, just personal observation and opinion.

Submitted by Random Female Tso on

Anonymous said...
If the naked scanners are safe because the radiation does not penetrate inside the body, then why are bones clearly visible in the scans? Rapiscan images clearly show this, and these scanners are currently being used in airports. This is not classified information, it is publicly and widely available information.
If the scans see bones then the radiation is travelling deep inside the body.
How can the scanners be safe?

October 2, 2010 10:20 AM
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Those machines use a technology called millimeter waves. It is pretty much equivalent to sitting in front of a television.

I have NEVER seen a person's bones as an image operator on the AIT machine. (whole body imager)

The images aren't as graphic as people think they are. I highly doubt any of those images would get your mojo flowing.

The only machine that does show bones is the castscope. This is used for people with a cast or prosthetic limb only. You can read more about it at the following link.

http://www.tsa.gov/approach/tech/castscope.shtm

Good day all.

-Random Tso

Submitted by Bubba on

Since I suspect I´ll be censored again, I´ll copy the post I sent for the front page item:

Bob,

Again, my post was not loaded. I´m getting mad. It is as on topic as post number 3.

I want to know why you think curling irons are more important to mention than that article published in May in the top scientific journal Nature saying that there is no science behind the SPOT program.

Submitted by Anonymous on

Random Female Tso said...
'ONLY castscope machines show bones inside the body'. This is NOT true. I know that millimetre wave scanners do not show bones, but x-ray backscatter DO show bones - they travel well inside the body. BOTH millimetre wave and x-ray backscatter are used in airports. I am sorry Random Female Tso, but your statement is simply wrong.

Submitted by Justan on

I accidentally tossed my passport in the microwave when warming up a towel for my three year old. Now there is a big rectangular burn mark on the back of it (the rest of it is fine). Will this cause problems on my next overseas trip? Do I need to have it replaced?
Thank you!

Submitted by RB on

Random Female Tso said...
Anonymous said...
If the naked scanners are safe because the radiation does not penetrate inside the body, then why are bones clearly visible in the scans? Rapiscan images clearly show this, and these scanners are currently being used in airports. This is not classified information, it is publicly and widely available information.
If the scans see bones then the radiation is travelling deep inside the body.
How can the scanners be safe?

October 2, 2010 10:20 AM
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Those machines use a technology called millimeter waves. It is pretty much equivalent to sitting in front of a television.

I have NEVER seen a person's bones as an image operator on the AIT machine. (whole body imager)

The images aren't as graphic as people think they are. I highly doubt any of those images would get your mojo flowing.

The only machine that does show bones is the castscope. This is used for people with a cast or prosthetic limb only. You can read more about it at the following link.

http://www.tsa.gov/approach/tech/castscope.shtm

Good day all.

-Random Tso

October 6, 2010 9:00 PM

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You have never heard of BACKSCATTER WBIers?

That is the machine of choice for TSA and they do emit dangerous xrays.

If the images are not graphic then why is TSA hiding the images from the public?

Submitted by Bubba on

Thanks, Bob, for confirming you are censoring us.

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